Thread: Top Rappers

Originally Posted by Buff

My GF was in a Talib Kweli video.

I grew up on Bone, Eminem, Too Short, Jay Z, Wyclef/The Fugees, Warren G, Beastie Boys, Dre, Snoop... In recent years have gotten more into Lil Wayne, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Macklemore, some Kanye (though I hate him), etc.

You must be a subhuman idiot.

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

1. Thank you again for another blatantly racist statement. Please refer to rappers being monkeys more often; it's not like it's a predominantly black art.

2. In spite of the predominance from one culture, it is immensely popular around the world. Now take that little factoid into consideration when you talk about "When it had appeal to all types of people instead of an angry few with one angry worldview." Do you even think when you post? Is it that hard to keep together a continuity of thoughts?

3. You literally just said that all black people in the ghetto who listen to music lack sophistication, subhuman, and called it a fact.

So let's just talk about the ghetto for a second. We can trace through history when African Americans have been forced into poverty in America. One such time was when they were systemically denied access to affordable housing. Now I'm not going to give away everything for you, because I want you to at least try to put some effort in, but there is a very OBVIOUS time when the American government was doling out access to owning a home. You should be able to figure this out. When this occurred there was an obvious disparity, and eventually, after some time at that, said disparity was taken care of. However, the predominant group (white people) damn near en masse left the areas that they were living in because the other large group of people were starting to move into those areas.

Now, the tricky part is when you have to take a factoid and make sense of it with another factoid. So what happens if you pay for schooling (historically a consistent way to get out of poverty) with property taxes? The education quality would be linked to the area, right? So what happens the people in the nice homes (that they got for a ******* song via the government) leave en masse and less popular people (en masse) move in? The neighborhood worth goes down. Which means there's less money for what? Education.

You want a living example of this? Take a look at minority populations in cities and then compare it to the white populace in cities. Then look at the ******* suburbs. Then look at gentrification for examples of it working in reverse.

Now outside of the wonderful history lesson I just gave you for free (See how benevolent I am?), the real point is that you have people who now live in ghettos as a result. So in other words, they didn't gather there like a bunch of mongoloid humanistic beasts like you think; there were essentially put there. So what form of expression do people turn to with great regularity? Music. And what happens when people turn to music as a means of creation, expression, and damn near therapy or cathartic experience? They infuse their ******* experiences.

So it's no surprise that you have contemporary music about crime, drugs, and the like. Because that's what happens in the ghettos. Splash in womanizing and misogynistic tendencies because, well, that is ubiquitous in music today and there you have it. So again, Hoofer, they're making music about their life. A life they never asked for and were born into. Now, what is common today is that you have a lot of guys rapping about things they've never done, but they're selling a dream, or a 'spectacle' version of a life - so the guy who sells dimebags of weed all day hears Rick Ross rhyming about moving kilos of cocaine; it's not too much different from anything else. I write for fun -- I dream of being a best selling author (fat chance). I work in a law office; I dream of being an attorney.

Now I of course get to choose my life and take control of it in a much higher capacity because of the situation I was born into.

Beautiful post king. And to think I was slammed in the ray Lewis son getting arrested thread for insinuating hoof's racism when he implied that he got arrested because he didn't have a father in his life(a claim that had zero basis in reported fact) . His posts in this thread seem to be proving me right.

As always, you do a much better job than I of hammering the point home.

When one Style Brother falters the other must be there to pick him up....

How in the bluest of blue hells are you going to pick me up?

Originally Posted by Von Kinger

When one Style Brother falters the other must be there to pick him up....

How in the bluest of blue hells are you going to pick me up?

By educating you on the nuance of nfl rules as well as the greatness and humility of lebron james.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

By educating you on the nuance of nfl rules as well as the greatness and humility of lebron james.

I understand the nuance of the rules! All I'm saying is that let the young men shine.

LBJ is great. He is to humble what OrangeHoof is to race relations.

King/OH, stop ruining Mo's gay thread.

Consider yourselves moderated

Don't make me sick BW on you, bruh.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Darren Sharper. Oops, sorry, wrong thread!

This deserves far more love than it got

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

This deserves far more love than it got

Thanks! I thought I was being pretty clever there. I'm glad someone appreciated it!

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Thanks! I thought I was being pretty clever there. I'm glad someone appreciated it!

Comedy gold

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Comedy gold

It must have gone over everyone else's heads. I guess guys like you and I are too smart for this place.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

It must have gone over everyone else's heads. I guess guys like you and I are too smart for this place.

Yes you are, you should leave and chase higher intellectual endeavors.

Subhumans. Oh man that's gold.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I'm kind of interested in the cultural impact of their work.

Wouldn't that start with Grandmaster Flash, members of Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, members of NWA, specifically Dr. Dre as a producer, Snoop Dogg, members of the Wu Tang Clan, Biggie, 2Pac, Nas, Eminem, Jay-Z? In chronological-ish order.

this list really needs KRS-One. . .

if you want to talk straight musical influence, no one's production is more respected than the late j-dilla. . .


in regards to the original post, it requires some clarification. . . by "rappers, do you mean groups and/or individual artists? producers? DJs? or the people who are actually rapping, the emcees? or just "all of the above?" because there are some separate discussions in there. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

this list really needs KRS-One. . .

if you want to talk straight musical influence, no one's production is more respected than the late j-dilla. . .


in regards to the original post, it requires some clarification. . . by "rappers, do you mean groups and/or individual artists? producers? DJs? or the people who are actually rapping, the emcees? or just "all of the above?" because there are some separate discussions in there. . .

Open for interpretation.