Thread: A Message to Our Customers from Apple

Originally Posted by wayninja

The argument about creating a "cancer" has always been silly. The cancer that is the digital signing codes to the iOS firmware have always existed. For some reason, those codes are locked in an airtight vault which can never be stolen, and we should trust that unquestionably, but creating whatever the FBI just did behind the scenes was not only impossible, but would have been left on the counter in the apple break-room with a sign that said "Basura" on it, and/or mission impossible style spies were going to repel down their laser security vault to steal it. Whichever is more convenient to the narrative.

Like I said earlier. This is probably the worst possible outcome for Apple. Not only do they get to be the party that interfered with a terrorist investigation, but they also did a shitty job of it.

There is also no compulsion for the government to share what it actually did to crack the phone. Ironically making security weaker for everyone.

Not only that, but with what the government was asking Apple would have retained all rights to the software/firmware created for the task. They would have been the "gatekeeper" if you will. Now, the FBI can get the contents of any iPhone that they confiscate.

Originally Posted by Davii

Not only that, but with what the government was asking Apple would have retained all rights to the software/firmware created for the task. They would have been the "gatekeeper" if you will. Now, the FBI can get the contents of any iPhone that they confiscate.

This was discussed by many people..and they all say that Apple "retaining" the software is an absurd idea. Can't be done as it't not a piece of paper that you can stick in a locked safe. If it would to be programmed, it absolutely would NOT be 'secure' and only with Apple. That's a known fact, and the govt trying to say 'yeah, but you keep it'... is just words that mean nothing.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

This was discussed by many people..and they all say that Apple "retaining" the software is an absurd idea. Can't be done as it't not a piece of paper that you can stick in a locked safe. If it would to be programmed, it absolutely would NOT be 'secure' and only with Apple. That's a known fact, and the govt trying to say 'yeah, but you keep it'... is just words that mean nothing.

Not debating Rav, I disagree, have a nice day.

ok.

ATTENTION ALL TERRORISTS:

Please feel free to purchase as many of our products as needed for your organization. We are more interested in our bottom line than protecting the lives of innocent people across the globe. Our second-to-none security features will ensure your total anonymity from any government body and your communications are safe with us.

Sincerely,

Apple, Inc.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

ATTENTION ALL TERRORISTS:

Please feel free to purchase as many of our products as needed for your organization. We are more interested in our bottom line than protecting the lives of innocent people across the globe. Our second-to-none security features will ensure your total anonymity from any government body and your communications are safe with us.

Sincerely,

Apple, Inc.

When to the pedophiles get their letter?

They've discussed that there are MANy.. MANY MANY MANY apps and programs that encrypt everything. Our lives and livelihood is built around encryption. It has to be with today's technology and digital world. The mere suggestion that Apple is somehow doing something different that EVERYONE isn't doing, is absurd. Apple is NOT the only one that uses encryption, and if they actually did have a 'second to none' encryption (which isn't true)...then they absolutely would be stupid to write something to crack said encryption.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

This was discussed by many people..and they all say that Apple "retaining" the software is an absurd idea. Can't be done as it't not a piece of paper that you can stick in a locked safe. If it would to be programmed, it absolutely would NOT be 'secure' and only with Apple. That's a known fact, and the govt trying to say 'yeah, but you keep it'... is just words that mean nothing.

You mean like "retaining" the signing keys for iOS firmware? The keys that allow your device to upload any update that Apple pushes out? Those are safe though. Trust us.

Seriously though. Why is that safe in Apples hands, but other software that apple creates isn't?

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

They've discussed that there are MANy.. MANY MANY MANY apps and programs that encrypt everything. Our lives and livelihood is built around encryption. It has to be with today's technology and digital world. The mere suggestion that Apple is somehow doing something different that EVERYONE isn't doing, is absurd. Apple is NOT the only one that uses encryption, and if they actually did have a 'second to none' encryption (which isn't true)...then they absolutely would be stupid to write something to crack said encryption.

By the sounds of it their encryption doesnt seem to be that great since it was recently hacked anyway. Either way, apple is safe from having to do anything since the FBI dropped their case as they can now get in on their own.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

They've discussed that there are MANy.. MANY MANY MANY apps and programs that encrypt everything. Our lives and livelihood is built around encryption. It has to be with today's technology and digital world. The mere suggestion that Apple is somehow doing something different that EVERYONE isn't doing, is absurd. Apple is NOT the only one that uses encryption, and if they actually did have a 'second to none' encryption (which isn't true)...then they absolutely would be stupid to write something to crack said encryption.

No encryption was cracked in this case. Their encryption is public/open (AES 256, using SHA-1 hash), it's not proprietary. Anyone with the correct computing power and/or thousands of years could break it.

I will say it again. This isn't about encryption. We aren't talking about locking shit in a vault and throwing away the key. We are talking about how to get the key. Not how to drill into the side of the safe. Apple was NEVER asked to break the encryption.

Originally Posted by wayninja

When to the pedophiles get their letter?

Those are normally delayed by 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Those are normally delayed by 2 weeks.

That's what's wrong with this country. Discrimination.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

ATTENTION ALL FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS:

Please feel free to purchase as many of our products as needed for your organization. We are more interested in our bottom line than protecting the lives of innocent people across the globe. Our second-to-none weaponry will ensure the total destruction anyone who gets in your way (and we dont really care who that is either)

Sincerely,

All Western Governments.

Or something like that

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Or something like that

Well, we need to reduce the deficit caused by our socialistic elected officials.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Well, we need to reduce the deficit caused by our socialistic elected officials.

Yeah - that was a far better reply that what i expected. lol

Well done joseph.