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    Default Here's the REAL reason Cam walked out.

    He overheard Chris Harris Jr. saying they wanted Cam to throw the ball.

    Now if this doesn't make you laugh your balls or tits off I don't know what will. Chris was a slayer this game.....A SLAYER!!!


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    That is, um, certainly a suspicious look, and timing. Maybe they should do team postgame interviews in separate areas. It IS lame to make a Conference Champ sit listening to questions and trying to form answers while listening to opponents explain to other reporters how their team just dismantled his to win a SB. NFL stadiums are big places: I'm sure there have at least two places a team can be interviewed without having to watch an opponent celebrate smashing them. All that said:

    It's not like Cam was exactly gracious from the moment that interview began. If he didn't want Harris to dance, he should've kept Miller out of his end zone.
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    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    "That was the gameplan. Force him to throw the ball."

    I don't think that's any great mystery. When Carolina fell behind by two scores, I said I'd much rather be facing Cam Newton right now than Tom Brady. Newton can make amazing plays but he's a 50% passer and I like those odds given our secondary and our pass rush. **Of course** you want to make Cam throw the ball and the gameplan is almost always going to be to make your opponent one-dimensional.

    You have to remember that Newton has experienced success far more than failure in his young life and probably doesn't truly know how to handle it well. To him, this was his crowning justification for everything else that's led up to it.

    Plus, I'm not sure he's been as physically abused as the Broncos abused him. He was clearly a beaten man in more ways than one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeHoof View Post
    "That was the gameplan. Force him to throw the ball."

    I don't think that's any great mystery. When Carolina fell behind by two scores, I said I'd much rather be facing Cam Newton right now than Tom Brady. Newton can make amazing plays but he's a 50% passer and I like those odds given our secondary and our pass rush. **Of course** you want to make Cam throw the ball and the gameplan is almost always going to be to make your opponent one-dimensional.

    You have to remember that Newton has experienced success far more than failure in his young life and probably doesn't truly know how to handle it well. To him, this was his crowning justification for everything else that's led up to it.

    Plus, I'm not sure he's been as physically abused as the Broncos abused him. He was clearly a beaten man in more ways than one.
    Newtons career completion percentage is 59.5%, he was at or above 60% half his first four seasons before posting a 59.7% this season, and his worst season so far 57.7% his second year: He has NEVER been a 50% passer, and he's already improved his passing skills since his rookie year. Thing is:

    Forcing [your QB here] to throw is ALWAYS "the game plan," because if the team can't run it gets one-dimensionally predictable and ends up in frequent 3rd and longs (making it even MORE predictable) so the pass rush can tee off as ours did while the rest of the LBs and DBs blanket all receivers. Without anything to force the safeties to crowd the line, they'll stay deep to guard the end zone; without anything to make blitzers hesitate or glance over their shoulder, they'll charge the QB.

    It's been said many ways over the years. A version new to me this year (from John Lynch) was "you have to earn the right to rush the passer." About five years ago it was "run 'em out of Cover 2." For DECADES before that it was "run to establish the pass." It's ALL just different ways of saying the same thing though: When you fall behind down and distance, EVERYONE KNOWS you'll pass, and plays that; when you can't run on 1st and 2nd down, you fall behind down and distance.

    The most amazing thing about our D, especially in the playoffs, is how much and often both our players and opponents have agreed that we don't do anything exotic or sophisticated: We (usually) do very straightforward things and simply EXECUTE THEM CONSISTENTLY WELL. Not that we can't or won't run stunts, delay blitzes, show blitzes or whatever, but none of those are our staples.

    Everyone just takes his assignment and handles it, and Wade trusts each players ability and judgement enough to let them freelance when they believe they can. It takes a LOT of talent and skill at ALL positions to do well, and when we flub a play it often explodes in our faces for a huge gain. But that rarely happens more than a handful of times in any game (and offenses must still exploit those chances) so the big DEFENSIVE plays more than make up for it.

    Anyway, defenses have been trying to box offenses into 4th and 24 since the T was "the gimmicky new fad:" Our is just exceptionally good at it in an era when that's supposed to be impossible. The ebb and flow of football means defenses are always catching up to offenses (that's why we keep changing the rules to favor offense even though footballs rules have ALWAYS favored offense INHERENTLY.) But the basic Xs and Os strategy truly hasn't ever changed, only the tactics.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Lol cam gave his haters alot of ammunition with that post game press conference. Dude wasn't just mad they lost he was acting like a spoiled mad kid. Then Chris Harris loud as hell is like the game plan was to make cam throw and cam just lost it and left lol. Dab dab dab.

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    Cam appeared smug and arrogant. A little humility goes a long way. I hope this loss is a slide that they never recover from. I dislike Newton big time almost as much as I dislike RG3, he's an egomaniac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazam! View Post
    Cam appeared smug and arrogant. A little humility goes a long way. I hope this loss is a slide that they never recover from. I dislike Newton big time almost as much as I dislike RG3, he's an egomaniac.
    Agreed. A little hard for me to even feel a little sorry for them although i shouldnt hold it against the entire Panther team, its just that their QB hasnt come as far as i thought he had so i feel no sympathy for him. He bought into his own hype and couldnt handle it when we shut his sorry ass down. Im going to revel in this everytime a Panthers fan tries to talk him up like he is king shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    He overheard Chris Harris Jr. saying they wanted Cam to throw the ball.

    Now if this doesn't make you laugh your balls or tits off I don't know what will. Chris was a slayer this game.....A SLAYER!!!


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    hahahahaha thats sweet!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Agreed. A little hard for me to even feel a little sorry for them although i shouldnt hold it against the entire Panther team, its just that their QB hasnt come as far as i thought he had so i feel no sympathy for him. He bought into his own hype and couldnt handle it when we shut his sorry ass down. Im going to revel in this everytime a Panthers fan tries to talk him up like he is king shit.
    Well, the thing is: Cam IS their offense. The #1 scoring offense had 9 TDs apart from Cam. Seriously, he had 45, they had 9, total is 54. THE WHOLE REST OF THEIR OFFENSE had less TDs than Cam RAN for (barely half as many.) Two years ago it was "if you stop Peyton, you've stopped Denver" and it was the same way with Cam and the Panthers. The sole question was whether our below average offense could score ANYTHING on their top ten D, and the answer was basically "HELL, no!"

    Our D just demolished Cam and their offense so utterly and consistently we didn't NEED an offense. Apart from McManus. The D scored us a TD, set up a FG at Carolinas 15 and set up another TD at their 4 (where we STILL needed 4 tries and an end zone flag to get in.) Norwood set us up at their 15, too, and we STILL couldn't get a first down, but avoiding a turnover got us another FG. That's 21 pts: Only time our offense scored was the opening FG.

    Cam walked out because our D hadn't, so HE STILL WASN'T SAFE....
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    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenBronx View Post
    He overheard Chris Harris Jr. saying they wanted Cam to throw the ball.

    Now if this doesn't make you laugh your balls or tits off I don't know what will. Chris was a slayer this game.....A SLAYER!!!


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    I saw talk about this last night, but it's the first time I listened to the clip. Yep, while he was already acting very unprofessional and like a sore loser in his presser, it does appear that Harris' comments put him over the edge.

    I think it's massively ironic that one of the kings of showboating and doing things that would be considered showing up the other team, ungracious and possibly even unsportsmanlike, would storm out of a presser for someone else being a "bit like Cam."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tned View Post
    I saw talk about this last night, but it's the first time I listened to the clip. Yep, while he was already acting very unprofessional and like a sore loser in his presser, it does appear that Harris' comments put him over the edge.

    I think it's massively ironic that one of the kings of showboating and doing things that would be considered showing up the other team, ungracious and possibly even unsportsmanlike, would storm out of a presser for someone else being a "bit like Cam."
    Somehow her pic of a blue eyed panther saying it was hungry for horse only came up now, so I told her, "sometimes you get the horse and sometimes the horse gets YOU." That earned a "be gone from my sight," to which I could only reply, "Panthers fans long ago forfeited the right to complain about victory celebrations."

    If you're gonna play that game—SO far over the top—you better 1) never lose or 2) be gracious when you do. Or 3) punk out, I guess.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    I still don't necessarily hate Cam, but I think he handled himself poorly last night. All of my non Broncos fan friends were sticking up for him. It's hard to justify that when Cam does the dab, Superman, team photo, ect. and acts like a spoiled brat when things don't go his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco4ever View Post
    I still don't necessarily hate Cam, but I think he handled himself poorly last night. All of my non Broncos fan friends were sticking up for him. It's hard to justify that when Cam does the dab, Superman, team photo, ect. and acts like a spoiled brat when things don't go his way.
    The other Newton (i.e. the one who covers the Panthers for ESPNs site) is actually getting on my nerves more than Cam, with an article chock full of excuses for Cams sulking and abruptly slinking away, then another basically saying the Panthers' nerves got to them so they were "tight" and "didn't play their game."

    In another words, we didn't WIN, they just LOST. I hear they get another crack at us at Mile High next year, so we'll see. Then again, we beat the CRAP out of Baltimore in the 2013 opener: They still kept their Rings....
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

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    Funny, because the media was going on and on about how loose the Panthers were, including yapping about it in pregame, as the Panthers were running around the stadium, dancing and dabbing as if they had already won.

    So, now, they were tight. Since they were so loose in pregame, I guess their ____ tightened up once the Broncos defense started hitting them in the chops.

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