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    Default Bill Belichick and Ted Thompson had the balls to do it.

    Let us just assume for just one moment that Oz continues to operate the offense efficiently. Is it really prudent to go back to the QB that the offense was stagnant and inconsistent with?

    When Bill Belichick decided to stick with Tom Brady over Drew Bledsoe in 2001, many Pats fans were upset with Belichick over how he treated Bledsoe. Belichick was criticized in the media too and that included veterans who thought Bledsoe should have been treated better. If you think Belichick knew Brady was going to turn into this hall of fame, "all time great" who would guide the team to 6 SBs and 4 rings, then you would be crazy. All he knew at the time was the offense was responding to Brady. He chose to do what was the unpopular thing and he chose correctly.

    Very similar situation with Favre and Rodgers. Favre was going back and forth with what he wanted to do as far as retirement. Rodgers was in his last year in 2008. The Packers had no clue what they had in Rodgers, as far as game conditions. Pretty sure they had a pretty decent idea as far as what they saw in practice. Ted Thompson made the very unpopular decision in getting rid of Favre.

    Now, I am not saying Oz is gong to be Brady or Favre. My contention is if the offense continues to respond to Oz and IF he is efficient, then Kubiak/Elway will need to make a similar decision in my estimation. If that means cutting him loose and enduring the wrath of ignorant fans who refuse to accept Manning is not going to operate an offense that Kubiak will not be running, or the veterans now in the media who get offended then so be it. I for one would be behind them 100% if they make that decision (especially if the offense continues to respond and balance is established with Oz.)

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    Neither team had a Hall of Fame quarterback running the front office. I think Manning retires after this season after an honest conversation with JFE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Dan View Post
    Neither team had a Hall of Fame quarterback running the front office. I think Manning retires after this season after an honest conversation with JFE.
    I would believe this. Except that should have happened this last off season and didn't. Why should we expect it now? I'm skeptical that Manning believes he is done. Him seeing a specialist tells me he doesn't think he's done. Why is that different in the off season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbroncs View Post
    I would believe this. Except that should have happened this last off season and didn't. Why should we expect it now? I'm skeptical that Manning believes he is done. Him seeing a specialist tells me he doesn't think he's done. Why is that different in the off season?
    Why wouldn't you see a specialist? Seems like the logical thing to do when you suffer an injury regardless of whether you're a HOF qb or an average Joe.
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    Peyton did not suffer a season ending injury. I totally understand why he would like to play again this season, if he is physically able to. Many sports commentators have said either verbally, or in columns, that the Broncos need Peyton if they make it to the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
    Peyton did not suffer a season ending injury. I totally understand why he would like to play again this season, if he is physically able to. Many sports commentators have said either verbally, or in columns, that the Broncos need Peyton if they make it to the playoffs.
    That's where I disagree. It's a fair assumption that if Peyton returns this season he will play the same way he has all season and that would hurt the team more than help it.
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    Peyton Manning's injury came at perfect time for Broncos

    http://www.outsports.com/2015/11/25/...oncos-playoffs

    very good article

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    Brady needed Bledsoe to beat the Steelers in the playoffs in 2001. Favre also had a really good season with the Vikings after playing pretty poorly for the Jets. Manning could make another appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudge View Post
    Why wouldn't you see a specialist? Seems like the logical thing to do when you suffer an injury regardless of whether you're a HOF qb or an average Joe.
    Plantar Facilitis is fairly common and heals by itself with time, a good doctor would know this. I've known many who have had it and not needed a specialist. Seeing a specialist to me means he does not think he is done, and wanted a specialist to tell him if there was a quicker way to fix it. If he doesn't think it now why would he this coming off season?

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    I love Drew but Peyton isn't Bledsoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SR View Post
    That's where I disagree. It's a fair assumption that if Peyton returns this season he will play the same way he has all season and that would hurt the team more than help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
    Peyton Manning's injury came at perfect time for Broncos

    http://www.outsports.com/2015/11/25/...oncos-playoffs

    very good article
    Yes it was just in time or we would have lost at least 4 games in a row with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashahla17 View Post
    Wow
    Clearly you don't pay attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbroncs View Post
    Plantar Facilitis is fairly common and heals by itself with time, a good doctor would know this. I've known many who have had it and not needed a specialist. Seeing a specialist to me means he does not think he is done, and wanted a specialist to tell him if there was a quicker way to fix it. If he doesn't think it now why would he this coming off season?
    Really? If you had the resources available, you wouldn't want to benifit from them? "It'll heal eventually" That's stupid....
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    No actually youve said that quite a few times, you just keep repeating it.

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