Thread: Remember Waaaay Back (i.e Last MONTH) When It Was All "Let Peyton Be Peyton"?

We've got a few dozen threads demanding we bench/cut/execute Peyton for NOT being what fans define as "Peyton." There's more maintaining the annual tradition of saying our current starting RB is so slow, fragile and unable to find holes we must bench him, as when he GOT the starting job because the last guy was slow, fragile and unable to find holes. I felt we needed at least one on the real problem:

THE "OFFENSIVE LINE"

New coach, complex new system, all of ONE returning starter (which, for cooperation and coordination, is as good as NONE) and TWO starters getting the first NFL snaps of their CAREERS.

Forget about Manning, Oz, Tebow, Rodgers or ANYONE passing well behind THAT, and Anderson, Hillman, Thompson or Barry Sanders running well behind it. If anyone wants to see Oz turned into the next panicky erratic David Carr permanently scared of his own shadow, or Hillman become the next limp-kneed plodding Willis McGahee, by all means, let's rush them out there to be pummelled right now. Otherwise, be glad we have a first ballot HoF QB to make the best of a Swiss cheese line that's been hopeless for at least half a decade, and grateful we have coaches who can (eventually) fix it.

...but, but, but teams are stacking the line of scrimmage because Manning's noodle are can't throw down field.

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

...but, but, but teams are stacking the line of scrimmage because Manning's noodle are can't throw down field.

Yeah, just as they did when his noodle arm threw 55 TDs in 2013 but we only averaged more than 11 other teams on the ground. Probably because Moreno was slow, danced too much, couldn't find holes and was made of porcelain, just like Henry, Buckhalter, McGahee, Hillman, Ball, Anderson and whatever poor dumb SOB gets that thankless job next. If only we let Peyton be Peyton....

I don't think this is as much of an either/or argument as you are making it (and not just you - all the anti-Manning threads suffer from the same basic issue. I haven't even looked in the Tebow thread). Manning has unquestionably declined this year. Our o-line is not good. Chicken, egg, whatever. There is no one simple fix for any of this right now. I will say that if the line improves, that might help Manning's confidence and make him make better decisions when he's not afraid of being destroyed. That is something that MAY come with time during this season and in the meantime, I'll take being 5-0 and dealing with this problem.

I almost feel guilty that I'm enjoying this season way more than most.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I almost feel guilty that I'm enjoying this season way more than most.

I'm loving it to. I just find the offense to be painful to watch. I keep waiting for Manning to turn back the clock, but it hasn't happened , yet.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

I don't think this is as much of an either/or argument as you are making it (and not just you - all the anti-Manning threads suffer from the same basic issue. I haven't even looked in the Tebow thread). Manning has unquestionably declined this year. Our o-line is not good. Chicken, egg, whatever. There is no one simple fix for any of this right now. I will say that if the line improves, that might help Manning's confidence and make him make better decisions when he's not afraid of being destroyed. That is something that MAY come with time during this season and in the meantime, I'll take being 5-0 and dealing with this problem.

Thank you. The either/or argument grows tiresome.

Originally Posted by Joel

Yeah, just as they did when his noodle arm threw 55 TDs in 2013 but we only averaged more than 11 other teams on the ground. Probably because Moreno was slow, danced too much, couldn't find holes and was made of porcelain, just like Henry, Buckhalter, McGahee, Hillman, Ball, Anderson and whatever poor dumb SOB gets that thankless job next. If only we let Peyton be Peyton....

What are you talking about Joel? Manning consistently faced 6 man boxes the year he threw 55 touchdowns. That's a nickel defense. It in no way qualifies as 'stacking the box'. It's quite the opposite in fact.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

I'm loving it to. I just find the offense to be painful to watch. I keep waiting for Manning to turn back the clock, but it hasn't happened , yet.

I think those things too.

Originally Posted by Joel

Yeah, just as they did when his noodle arm threw 55 TDs in 2013 but we only averaged more than 11 other teams on the ground. Probably because Moreno was slow, danced too much, couldn't find holes and was made of porcelain, just like Henry, Buckhalter, McGahee, Hillman, Ball, Anderson and whatever poor dumb SOB gets that thankless job next. If only we let Peyton be Peyton....

They absolutely were not "stacking the box" when we had DT, Decker, Welker, and JT. I just don't get how you don't know how wrong you are on this.

My real joy will start when manning is finished at qb via benching. But injury which is certain to happen will come first since elway dont have the guts. Our oline going forward into next year or late in the year once we get garcia sambrello vasquez and schofield reps together the oline will be fine. But mannings arm wont.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

They absolutely were not "stacking the box" when we had DT, Decker, Welker, and JT. I just don't get how you don't know how wrong you are on this.

Nobody stacked the box because they'd get there ass burned deep consistently. Manning would constantly hit the 35-49 yard stuff. He cant do it anymore.

Originally Posted by Yashahla17

Nobody stacked the box because they'd get there ass burned deep consistently. Manning would constantly hit the 35-49 yard stuff. He cant do it anymore.

Don't say that. It's grounds for treason.

35-40 yard stuff. Didnt want to make it seem like manning had the 50 yard canon like some qbs. But hed burn teams ass for 35-40 yard accurate throws consistently. It was almost effortless. But its over.

Manning makes life miserable for an already bad o-line because we can't move the pocket with him, can't run misdirection, can't evade the pass rush, can't run plays from under center, can't run bootlegs, etc. The o-line is essentially playing with one arm behind their backs from the start. Then you layer in the fact that teams aren't afraid of him beating them deep, and it becomes virtually impossible to have an effective gameplan with this offense as currently designed.