Thread: A clean Von Miller out of NFL drug program

Originally Posted by VonDoom

This is a good question. I honestly can't remember any change of policy but I won't complain

Agreed.

Marijuana discipline: The punishment for a positive test is also changing. As is the case now, a first-time offense lands the player in the substance abuse program without a suspension. The primary difference is the punishment for a second positive test: simply a two-game fine. Each additional violation receives the following progressive discipline: four-game fine, four-game suspension, 10-game suspension. A player can therefore test positive for marijuana three times without getting suspended.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/1...-details-nflpa

Originally Posted by Northman

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/1...-details-nflpa

This doesn't say anything about being able to reset your record with a couple of years of clean tests, though. What was Welker suspended for last year? Because this policy went into effect and then he was back after missing only that one game. So I know they did revise some things, I just didn't think they could clear your record. This is now like having points on your driver's license, which actually makes sense.

article - Sept 2014

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ings/15571205/

Did not have time to read it all, so not sure if this explains Von's situation or not

Originally Posted by VonDoom

This doesn't say anything about being able to reset your record with a couple of years of clean tests, though. What was Welker suspended for last year? Because this policy went into effect and then he was back after missing only that one game. So I know they did revise some things, I just didn't think they could clear your record. This is now like having points on your driver's license, which actually makes sense.

There is no reset with the record. But there is also no immediate year long suspension. What the link states is that you the more often you are caught the more games you will be suspended for. Since the new policy is basically now in effect Von is no longer under the prior rules for MJ use. HGH is far different and is considered cheating so Welker's suspension was treated accordingly.

Originally Posted by Northman

There is no reset with the record. But there is also no immediate year long suspension. What the link states is that you the more often you are caught the more games you will be suspended for. Since the new policy is basically now in effect Von is no longer under the prior rules for MJ use. HGH is far different and is considered cheating so Welker's suspension was treated accordingly.

If that's the case, wouldn't this have come out last September? Klis' article specifically uses the word "reset", which is why I said that

Originally Posted by VonDoom

If that's the case, wouldn't this have come out last September? Klis' article specifically uses the word "reset", which is why I said that

Its possible, im not sure. But i would question the Klis article a bit because i really dont think the NFL is going to disregard past history but they may. I would have to read up more on this from hopefully some other added sources to see how true it is. I just cant really see the NFL just wiping the slate clean but its certainly possible.

Originally Posted by VonDoom

If that's the case, wouldn't this have come out last September? Klis' article specifically uses the word "reset", which is why I said that

Originally Posted by Northman

Its possible, im not sure. But i would question the Klis article a bit because i really dont think the NFL is going to disregard past history but they may. I would have to read up more on this from hopefully some other added sources to see how true it is. I just cant really see the NFL just wiping the slate clean but its certainly possible.

I think ultimately in some sense there is a reset for all player who have been suspended for things like this. I don't think the League can go use the disciplinary measure of an old policy that is no longer in effect.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

I think ultimately in some sense there is a reset for all player who have been suspended for things like this. I don't think the League can go use the disciplinary measure of an old policy that is no longer in effect.

I dont think they will use the policy that was there previously but i also dont think they will ignore prior history either. I just think that if there was a reset for all players that it would be much bigger news than just one guy reporting it.

Originally Posted by Northman

I dont think they will use the policy that was there previously but i also dont think they will ignore prior history either. I just think that if there was a reset for all players that it would be much bigger news than just one guy reporting it.

I think it's not that big of deal compared to domestic violence and Deflategate.

Thanks to clean record for the last two years and a revamped NFL drug policy, Broncos outside linebacker Von Miller has been discharged from the league's drug program and will no longer be subject to multiple tests a week, an NFL source confirmed.

Miller was suspended six games in 2013 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy and was placed in Stage 3 of its intervention program.

But he tested clean each time for the last two years.

With the old drug policy it wouldn't have mattered. He would have remained in the program for the rest of his career.

But last September the league and union agreed to a revised policy that allowed players in Stage 3 who have had no failed tests in 24 months to be eligible for discharge.

Should he test positive again, Miller will re-enter Stage 1 of the program and face additional tests but no suspension.

9News first reported his release from the program.

rest - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...s-drug-program

okay, there we go! thanks, carol. . . that is actually some really huge news. . . the kid is an immense talent, it's beyond big to have that monster caveat removed from the rest of his career. . . just hope he realizes how truly lucky he is, and takes advantage of it. . .

Originally Posted by dogfish

okay, there we go! thanks, carol. . . that is actually some really huge news. . . the kid is an immense talent, it's beyond big to have that monster caveat removed from the rest of his career. . . just hope he realizes how truly lucky he is, and takes advantage of it. . .

Agreed. If he can keep his nose and stay healthy he's going to be nasty good in Phillips' defense.

Twenty sacks.

I think 2 years clean was policy before they relaxed the punishments, iirc they were reporting this at the time Miller was popped.