Thread: PFT Report: Broncos tried to trade Manning to Texans this offseason

As much scrutiny as there was during that whole time frame with the rumblings of pay cuts and whether or not Manning was going to retire, I'm sure someone with much better sources would have gotten wind of a story that big at the time. They may have entertained a phone call or two but I doubt they ever considered ever trading Manning. The focus always seemed to be the paycut.

Originally Posted by MasterShake

As much scrutiny as there was during that whole time frame with the rumblings of pay cuts and whether or not Manning was going to retire, I'm sure someone with much better sources would have gotten wind of a story that big at the time. They may have entertained a phone call or two but I doubt they ever considered ever trading Manning. The focus always seemed to be the paycut.

And it could be something just as simple as that. Houston called sniffing around, and maybe it was entertained for a second, but no serious talks ever emerged. And even something as small as that would be enough to validate the guy's story.

I still stick to the point that unless Manning thought there was a non-zero chance of a trade, he doesn't ask for a no-trade clause.

The Texans have never been even remotely close to having the cap room to squeeze a Peyton Manning salary into their salary cap so any discussions (if there ever were any) could not have gone very far. To make it work (between Jan-Mar '15), the Broncos would have had to agree to take Andre Johnson and Arian Foster or Duane Brown (no chance they trade J.J. Watt) so Peyton would have shown up in Houston with no weapons or no protection.

IOW, it would have been unworkable for the Texans and not very workable either for the Broncos.

The Broncos and Mannings agent have denied this entirely.

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan

So a couple people say it happened and a lot of people say it didn't. Then you have the luxury of throwing out all of the people saying it didn't happen.

I thought that was hilarious too.

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Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

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Third string, third string, third string

Regardless of whether it's true or not - I actually think the rumor is a positive development. PFM basically got to run the team for 3 years, and dictate free agency decisions, and call the offense, and basically do whatever he wanted...

Now his pay has been cut, his ego has been diminished and I'd think he's probably been humbled just a tad. He should be able to focus more on being just another teammate, playing with a chip on his shoulder as a bit of an underdog instead of the front runner with all of the expectations and leadership burden squarely on him.

Non-issue

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

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I think our punt protection is just fine, maybe your Rams ST can use him.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

On the other side of the token, Vic and Mason are both saying their sources say there is no truth to this rumor.

Clearly this is total B.S. Why would Peyton agree to be traded to a new team for his final season? It makes zero sense that he would permit a trade. He could just retire instead.

According to Forbes magazine, he's got over $115 million, so the money means nothing to him. He's got a SB ring and played in 3 SBs. He's been on the All-Pro team many times. He's set all the passing records. He's really got nothing left to prove. He's still playing because he wants one last chance at a SB ring. But, getting traded in his last season? No way he'd agree to that.

During the negotiations over his contract renewal, Peyton reportedly wanted to know that the Broncos really wanted him, and was questioning how he would fit into the new offense before he would commit to coming back for a new season.

If he didn't like the answers, he wasn't going to sign a new contract, and he could just walk away, as he clearly considered doing after the season.

Of course, the Broncos might have tried to trade him anyway, but Peyton would have to agree to a new contract with the new team, so he had total leverage. The team might be able to recover a portion of his signing bonus if he refused to report after a trade, as the Dolphins did with Jake Plummer, but a few million $ for Peyton is pocket change.

All in all, these rumors have been denied by the Broncos, have been denied by virtually everybody, and are clearly absurd on their face.

Peyton would have no incentive to agree to a trade, and without his consent, no trade could be completed.

Then there's Brock Osweiler. It would be insane for the Broncos to rush to the Brock Osweiler era when it's obvious they don't think he's anything special.

If they DID think Brock was their Franchise QB of the Future, they would have let Peyton retire and started the Osweiler era. The fact they didn't do that proves that, while they are going to give Brock the inside track for a starting job next season, they don't believe they have the next Aaron Rogers waiting in the wings. If they did he would be starting this season.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

The Texans have never been even remotely close to having the cap room to squeeze a Peyton Manning salary into their salary cap so any discussions (if there ever were any) could not have gone very far. To make it work (between Jan-Mar '15), the Broncos would have had to agree to take Andre Johnson and Arian Foster or Duane Brown (no chance they trade J.J. Watt) so Peyton would have shown up in Houston with no weapons or no protection.

IOW, it would have been unworkable for the Texans and not very workable either for the Broncos.

All arguments about compensation fail for the simple reason that Peyton doesn't want to be traded and could simply retire if the team tried to trade him. He CHOSE the Broncos out of at least 10 teams engaged in a bidding war to sign him as a FA. Why would he let the team dictate his fate now?

He was carefully considering retirement after the season. He had multiple talks with John Elway and Kubiak before he would agree to re-do his contract. And Elway stated publicly that it was a "feeling out" process between Peyton and the team as to whether the team really wanted him back, and what his role would be exactly in the new offense.

In short, the Broncos had to SELL PEYTON on coming back for one more year, demonstrate to him that they really wanted him back, and agree on contract terms. It was NOT a given that he would return this season.

So, how could the team convince Peyton to report to a new team after trading him?

A ratio station in Houston is now reporting it as well. Are they making it up too?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...y-preliminary/

Originally Posted by Cugel

Clearly this is total B.S. Why would Peyton agree to be traded to a new team for his final season? It makes zero sense that he would permit a trade. He could just retire instead.

According to Forbes magazine, he's got over $115 million, so the money means nothing to him. He's got a SB ring and played in 3 SBs. He's been on the All-Pro team many times. He's set all the passing records. He's really got nothing left to prove. He's still playing because he wants one last chance at a SB ring. But, getting traded in his last season? No way he'd agree to that.

During the negotiations over his contract renewal, Peyton reportedly wanted to know that the Broncos really wanted him, and was questioning how he would fit into the new offense before he would commit to coming back for a new season.

If he didn't like the answers, he wasn't going to sign a new contract, and he could just walk away, as he clearly considered doing after the season.

Of course, the Broncos might have tried to trade him anyway, but Peyton would have to agree to a new contract with the new team, so he had total leverage. The team might be able to recover a portion of his signing bonus if he refused to report after a trade, as the Dolphins did with Jake Plummer, but a few million $ for Peyton is pocket change.

All in all, these rumors have been denied by the Broncos, have been denied by virtually everybody, and are clearly absurd on their face.

Peyton would have no incentive to agree to a trade, and without his consent, no trade could be completed.

Then there's Brock Osweiler. It would be insane for the Broncos to rush to the Brock Osweiler era when it's obvious they don't think he's anything special.

If they DID think Brock was their Franchise QB of the Future, they would have let Peyton retire and started the Osweiler era. The fact they didn't do that proves that, while they are going to give Brock the inside track for a starting job next season, they don't believe they have the next Aaron Rogers waiting in the wings. If they did he would be starting this season.

Originally Posted by Cugel

All arguments about compensation fail for the simple reason that Peyton doesn't want to be traded and could simply retire if the team tried to trade him. He CHOSE the Broncos out of at least 10 teams engaged in a bidding war to sign him as a FA. Why would he let the team dictate his fate now?

He was carefully considering retirement after the season. He had multiple talks with John Elway and Kubiak before he would agree to re-do his contract. And Elway stated publicly that it was a "feeling out" process between Peyton and the team as to whether the team really wanted him back, and what his role would be exactly in the new offense.

In short, the Broncos had to SELL PEYTON on coming back for one more year, demonstrate to him that they really wanted him back, and agree on contract terms. It was NOT a given that he would return this season.

So, how could the team convince Peyton to report to a new team after trading him?

You have a great imagination.

Originally Posted by Cugel

All arguments about compensation fail for the simple reason that Peyton doesn't want to be traded and could simply retire if the team tried to trade him. He CHOSE the Broncos out of at least 10 teams engaged in a bidding war to sign him as a FA. Why would he let the team dictate his fate now?

He was carefully considering retirement after the season. He had multiple talks with John Elway and Kubiak before he would agree to re-do his contract. And Elway stated publicly that it was a "feeling out" process between Peyton and the team as to whether the team really wanted him back, and what his role would be exactly in the new offense.

In short, the Broncos had to SELL PEYTON on coming back for one more year, demonstrate to him that they really wanted him back, and agree on contract terms. It was NOT a given that he would return this season.

So, how could the team convince Peyton to report to a new team after trading him?

You are naive to think that Manning isn't money motivated. He would have accepted a trade and collected his $20 million if we would have traded him to Jacksonville or Oakland. Granted, if the receiving team demanded a restructured contract then that might have changed things... But this idea that Manning would be content to hang it up just goes against everything we know about the guy.