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“I’m just different!”
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Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
Train I think you’re missing the point, not surprised because so many of us on here are hung up due to our bias as fans, which is absolutely true.
Teams still think he could compete for a starting job. Yes, he’d have still been under his rookie deal, with no real time under center come the end of the year teams only have to offer him enough to make him jump ship, when the top amount you receive according to your rookie deal is a tad over a million for one season that might not be all that hard, especially if the Broncos don’t want to extend him with any real fiscal benefit to him. If Denver offers him a two year 3 million dollar extension he might or might not accept, if they wait and offer him the same at the end of the year he’ll probably test free agency which is what Elway likes to do, and let’s say that Houston offers him a two year 5 million dollar deal who do you think he’ll pick? Denver? Where he hasn’t gotten a fair shot, where he has sat for four years? And what if Manning returns again?
This isn’t about Osweiler as much as about the Broncos. They’ve claimed that he is the quarterback of the future, teams don’t usually allow the future to sit for near to half a decade. And they might believe he is not the answer but might simply be the best option for a transitional year or two, or they might and what has transpired could have distanced the relationship between both sides, we have no clue how either side feels about it. If he is a true competitor it might not sit well with him how this has played out, again four or five years waiting for a shot could be too much. There are a couple ways this could play out with Osweiler or it might be best to simply move on for both sides.
The Broncos with Manning at the helm will not likely have a Top 20 Pick, do you agree? Next year it looks like at least one top option might be available after 20, but more then likely they’ll have to jump up using another high draft pick if not more to secure a quarterback of the future if they are not going forward with Osweiler, either way in the end they’ll have to give more money to Osweiler or trade away some picks to get Manning’s replacement which is more likely because I just don’t see how any of this would sit well with Osweiler who has watched as others of his draft class are succeeding and then looks at himself as being a glorified clean-up/back up quarterback of the future but hasn’t been giving a fair shot, and don’t think for a minute that his agent hasn’t been whispering in his ear, that is what they do best.
- Doesn't bother me what people think, the mere fact what I think seems to bother others speaks volumes about them more then myself! -
that's great that Manning is not greedy and a great guy. heck, I wouldn't have a problem with Mother Theresa under center if she could get us a Lombardi. that would be kinda neat actually, in many ways which I won't get into now
Ironically Paige explains why perfectly:
I'd say you're a perfect example of the "misanthropes" he's talking about.You know, the ones who will instantly forget everything they ever posted about "let's see what we have in Brock Osweiler" the minute he starts throwing a few picks and amply demonstrates why your chances of ever finding a franchise QB at #57 in the second round are not too hot (1 out of the last 118 QBs selected - Russell Wilson, has been any good).The misanthropists who are curious to watch Brock Osweiler lead the Broncos to a 7-9 record and a third-place finish in the AFC West can turn their concentration to Pot Roasting.
You can stop your bloviating nonsense about Peyton now. He's back and he took a $4 million pay cut.
Screw Brock Osweiler if he doesn't like it. He can stick around and become the Broncos starting QB in a system he knows or try and latch on elsewhere and fight for a job he may or may not win. He "hasn't been given a 'fair shot'"? Are you higher than Bob Marley? You think he needs a "fair shot" to beat out Peyton Manning? On what planet is that logical?Quote Originally Posted by Lancane View Post
Next year it looks like at least one top option might be available after 20, but more then likely they’ll have to jump up using another high draft pick if not more to secure a quarterback of the future if they are not going forward with Osweiler, either way in the end they’ll have to give more money to Osweiler or trade away some picks to get Manning’s replacement which is more likely because I just don’t see how any of this would sit well with Osweiler who has watched as others of his draft class are succeeding and then looks at himself as being a glorified clean-up/back up quarterback of the future but hasn’t been giving a fair shot, and don’t think for a minute that his agent hasn’t been whispering in his ear, that is what they do best.
P.S. Man that quote is one king hell of a run-on sentence.
As for Brock's salary he'll get something over $10 million if he's the starter in 2016. Probably closer to $15 million if he earns his incentives. That's what starting QBs in the NFL get in FA, not $3-5 million. Of course, the Broncos will make the contract so that if Brock doesn't meet the incentives he doesn't earn the money, (like wins, TDs, completion percentage, playoff wins, SB, etc.). If he does meet expectations he'd be worth the money, and if not he won't earn it.
If Peyton returns in 2016, then Brock will seek a job elsewhere most probably. I don't see the Broncos being able to keep him in that scenario, but right now, it sure doesn't look like Peyton will be back. He has looked enormously like John Elway in taking his time to decide whether to come back for his last season, and Elway was coming off the SB win. If the Broncos do not win the SB this season, it seems very probable that Peyton would hang it up rather than come back to complete his contract.
Last edited by Cugel; 03-04-2015 at 09:04 PM.
"Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
“I’m just different!”
“ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”
Draft
1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
3rd round— Will Shipley RB
4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
6th round— Cash Jones RB
7th round— Carson Steele RB
I agree with TJ. Based on what we know at this point Brock probably would not garner anymore than a 4th, maybe 3rd at best depending on what else was offered. Doesnt matter where Denver drafted him as he has no body of work to warrant anything higher at this point. Personally, i dont see Denver wasting the time to have him learn under Manning just to trade him away without seeing what he has in game time situations. If they were brazen enough to see what Tebow has i dont think Elway will be keen to ditch Oz without providing him the same opportunity.
The article said they "reorganized" Mannings deal in Indy. Since when is restructuring taking less? Rob Peter to pay Paul but in the end deals like that are backloaded and you eventually have to pay the piper.
Manning outright took less in this deal but can make up for it by winning a SuperBowl. Much different situation then what happened in Indy.
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