Thread: Patriots being investigated for using deflated balls.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Personally, I feel that WTE's digital aneurism is way more entertaining than the actual story ever could be.

i have pictured him literally just sitting in front of his computer twitching compulsively for the past two days. . .

Originally Posted by wayninja

Personally, I feel that WTE's digital aneurism is way more entertaining than the actual story ever could be.

I love it!

Originally Posted by dogfish

i have pictured him literally just sitting in front of his computer twitching compulsively for the past two days. . .

I wonder if his computer is equipped with a defibrillator app and paddles?

did you guys see the ESPN map that shows all of the US thinks that the Patriots cheated

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

did you guys see the ESPN map that shows all of the US thinks that the Patriots cheated

even the northeast?

that was the one place that didnt ;p

here it is.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

that was the one place that didnt ;p

here it is.

Wow! Even the oceans voted?

bottle nosed dolphins dont like cheaters.

Originally Posted by WTE

He's not a scientist Mo. It's an act. Perhaps its time for him to go back on DWTS to promote his phony brand.

What the Hell are you even talking about here?

After attending Lafayette Elementary and Alice Deal Junior High in the city, he was accepted to the private Sidwell Friends School on a partial scholarship and graduated in 1973.[8][9] He studied mechanical engineering at Cornell University (where he took an astronomy class taught by Carl Sagan)[10] and graduated with a bachelor of science degree in mechanical engineering in 1977.[11] Nye occasionally returns to Cornell as a professor to guest lecture introductory level astronomy and human ecology classes.[12]

Career
Nye began his career in Seattle at Boeing, where (among other things) he starred in training films and developed a hydraulic pressure resonance suppressor for the 747. Later, he worked as a consultant in the aeronautics industry. In 1999 he told the St. Petersburg Times that he applied to be a NASA astronaut every few years, but was always rejected.[13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye#Early_life

In what sense is he "not a scientist"? The sensehe doesn't give Belicheats sneaks and felons a free pass for each of their many crimes?

Originally Posted by WTE

Let me make this clear. It is the refs responsibility to make sure the balls are in the PSI range. Not the team. The Patriots may have submitted their balls at 11.5 to 12 PSI and the Colts may have presented their balls at 13.5 to 14.0. We'll never know the PSI presented pre-game b/c the refs don't inspect the balls like they say they do.

You keep ALLEGING that, but there's no proof nor even evidence the refs don't stick a gauge in each ball before each game, just NEs NEED for it to be true because NOTHING ELSE can clear them—except even that wouldn't, because "it's OK for to cheat as long as the refs don't do their jobs and catch it" is a worthless "defense."

Originally Posted by WTE

Anyway, once the balls go on the field at lower temperature they begin to lose their PSI but since the Colts was so highly inflated they were still above 12.5.

What evidence is there Indys balls were illegally overinflated by at least a full PSI? Apart from, once again, the Pats NEEDING it to be true because the SOLE other possibility is they're guilty as homemade sin. Again; it's not like Indy previously ADMITTED cheating when caught, nor re-hired the OC who ALSO ADMITTED CHEATING the same way while running another team.

Originally Posted by WTE

According to the NFL's statement, the officials claim they inspected all 60 some odd balls before that game:

"The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game."

Now, if the officials lied to the investigators about what exactly they did that is a big problem for the officials, not the Patriots.

The NFL statement says the inspection WAS done, not that refs CLAIMED it was. There's no basis to doubt that except NEs obsessive desperate need to make its own faults someone elses.

Originally Posted by WTE

LOL. Some of you are such frauds. Including yourself. This isn't about your concern with integrity of the game. It's about your extreme hatred for Belichick and the Patriots. You don't care about facts, you just hope and pray the Patriots go down in flames.

It ain't gonna happen fraud!

You've got it backward: Concern for the games integrity is WHY so many people hate the career cheater coaching NE and the three tainted titles that resulted. I had a lot of grudging respect for the Pats before '07, but then the truth came out and EVERYTHING they'd "accomplished" went from badge of honor to mark of shame. Yet it continues, because they don't care and no one makes them.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

Walt Anderson’s crew checked all footballs before AFC Championship Game

http://www.footballzebras.com/2015/01/21/12406/

Not good enough; we need that ball-stamp to pass a polygraph (for some reason.)

Originally Posted by GEM

There won't be any movement by the NFL until after the Super Bowl if at all. Admitting this at this level of the season brings the entire integrity of the game on the line. If they admit it now, the biggest game is a sham. If they admit it later, the biggest game is a sham. And the Patriots absolutely know that Gooddell can't let the shield take that kind of hit after the year its already had.

That's the problem though: The NFLs buckler's already buckling, and this is a potentially mortal blow however and whenever it ends, further compounded by Belicheats publicly dismissive attitude toward the NFLs response. It's a decade-long problem in NE—except not FOR NE, because it's gotten them to 6 SBs in a dozen years. The owners can't afford to tolerate that when the public's already fed up with them doing so on everything from cheating to long term player health (even survival) to felonious violence. The Pats pulled this (again) at exactly the wrong time and with far too little remorse.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

The funny thing is if that is the case then actually does more damage to Shield than exposing the problem and making corrections.

Except it doesn't, because it's common knowledge "the Shield" has serious integrity problems on many fronts, and that's seriously hurting its brand. The $10 billion question is whether the owners make the Commissioner do something about it (since promoting and protecting the NFL brand is basically his entire job) or let the league die the death of a thousand cuts.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Spygate, Spygate II, underhanded substitutions, this is just the shit we know about.

Why can't your team stop cheating?

Because it's gotten them to 6 SBs in a dozen years with no consequences but a trivial one-time fine and loss of a single 1st round pick: Why the Hell WOULD they stop? If you were stealing $10 million from a bank every other week and the only punishment when caught was a $500 fine, would you stop? Better question, regarding "the Shield:" How many people wouldn't JOIN IN if they saw that?

Originally Posted by WTE

All that really matters is the Patriots hoist the Lombardi on Sunday.

Clearly, but that's the problem.

Originally Posted by Jaded

Please, the outcome of that Colts/Cheatriots game isn't the point, it never was, however I think the Ravens are clearly another story.

As for the NFL officiating, pure garbage at this point and in die need of better leadership, with each passing week I'm losing faith in the integrity. And that's not just the Cheatriots or sour milk for Denver, it's literally every game I watch. I've been saying this for years.

^THAT^ THIS is why the owners can't just look the other way again, let alone actively aid a cover up as they did for CTE, Ray Rice and Spygate (which is small potatoes by comparison.) Especially not after Belicheat and Bradys pressers basically stood in front of the nation and DARED the League to do anything else.

Originally Posted by ShaneFalco

here it is.

That's a map of all the places that will still pay lots of their hard-earned cash for NFL jerseys, caps, Madden, Sunday Ticket and season tickets if the NFL just sweeps this under the rug again. Maybe they can get Andrew Luck to release a video apologizing for being cheated of a SB trip; worked for Ray Rice, right? The owners can't ignore this for the same reason they didn't dare get Aaron Hernandez a lawyer.

Originally Posted by spikerman

Those guys do the best job possible under very difficult circumstances. I would encourage anyone who thinks officiating is easy to join their local association. You'll see quickly how difficult it is and that will be with the game speed at nowhere near what these guys have to look at. Could it be improved? Definitely, but they are the best in the world at what they do.

They're the best at what they do, that's comforting.

Keep in mind I don't put it all on the offficials doing the game, the rules are so convoluted and subjective it's difficult to be sure, but these idiots can't even call the game consistently -At least I hope it's because they're idiots- they're never -ever- balanced in how the officiate each team on the field.

It's garbage and getting worse, and I'm beginning to think it's by design.

Originally Posted by Northman

Not sure how Flacco throwing a game ending INT has anything to do with "possible" deflated balls.

So the 58:00 leading up to that is meaningless?

Originally Posted by Jaded

They're the best at what they do, that's comforting.

Keep in mind I don't put it all on the offficials doing the game, the rules are so convoluted and subjective it's difficult to be sure, but these idiots can't even call the game consistently -At least I hope it's because they're idiots- they're never -ever- balanced in how the officiate each team on the field.

It's garbage and getting worse, and I'm beginning to think it's by design.

I think you should get out there and show them how it's done. Start with your local association. Obviously you could teach them a thing or two.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Wow! Even the oceans voted?

Yes the oceans were overwhelmingly believe Belicheck is lying through his teeth but, one subset showed that hermit crabs and sea sponges firmly believe Belicheck. It might also be noted that the most of them reside in Massachusetts Bay. Go figure.

Originally Posted by spikerman

I think you should get out there and show them how it's done. Start with your local association. Obviously you could teach them a thing or two.

muahah. . . jaded, you better stop-- i think spike's gonna start getting defensive. . .