Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 16 to 27 of 27

Thread: Adam Gase's game plan for Broncos offense focuses on running ball more

  1. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    colorado
    Posts
    26,922

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Mannings Colts teams had a 55/45 run/pass balance pretty much every year; in '05 (when they were the 14-2 #1 seed) it was almost dead even, 50/50. He also publicly said he called all those runs at the end of our 2012 playoff game; not his fault our line couldn't block any better than than now. Manning's not a pass-only QB: Denver's just a run-incapable offense.


    Exactly. we werent a pass only team last year. Knowshon had nearly 1600 all purpose yards!
    The Plan at the moment:

    Draft: Trade a 3rd and 6th this year to a team to move up and get a 2nd next year (this will happen).

    Players I want:
    Jake Ferguson (Jake Butt) or Jelani Woods or Jeremy Ruckert or Cade Otten (owen daniels) at TE- All 4th rd or later.
    Troy Anderson LB 3rd/4th rd (yay Timmy!)
    Neil Farrell, JR DL- run stuffer- bye purcell

  2. The Following 2 Users High Fived underrated29 For This Post:


  3. #17

    Default

    There may well be folks in Denver who don't grasp the basic concept of "run to establish the pass" or "run 'em out of Cover 2," but Manning's not among them; his knowledge of both the games strategy and history is too deep and broad to miss something that basic, or buy into the "passing fancy" that the new rules make running obsolete. The passing league makes teams more rather than less likely to drop 7-8 guys in coverage or send the house on a blitz, so it's more important than ever to find ways to deter that.

    It needn't be spectacular (we have an elite passing game to hit home runs) but CONSISTENT running simply creates too many passing opportunities that flat don't EXIST otherwise. It slows the pass rush because defensive linemen must look over their shoulder, prevents Cover 2 and 3 because it forces a safety down into the box and—perhaps most importantly for our spread offense—forces LBs to, like, BACK the LINE by plugging holes, so they can't all squat on underneath routes so there's 4 DBs left to play those deep Cover 2s and Seattles beloved Cover 3. Manning knows all that, and acts accordingly.

    He just can't block for his RBs, nor keep MLBs and safeties up the gut out of his face on passes. The NFL's not a 6-man league; I miss the Shanahan/Alex Gibbs Broncos who knew that well enough to win SBs.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

    Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
    Love can't be coerced. —Me

  4. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Adopted Bronco:
    Paul George
    Posts
    29,260

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeingRed View Post
    I take anything this coaching staff says with a grain of salt. How many times have we heard "we need to run it more" this season only to see the run abandoned when an established run game can still be accomplished? No shit you need to run the ball more Gase...you called TEN run plays last week. TEN!
    Exactly. Just as a fun coincidence, the article talking about this transitioned directly from Gase saying we needed to run the ball more, to DT talking about breaking a receiving record. . .

  5. #19
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    San Antonio, TX (but wanting to move)
    Posts
    14,239

    Default

    Obviously, running the ball effectively would be great, but even if they're not effective early they need to keep trying - if for no other reason to make the Dolphins have to defend the possibility.
    “If there are no animals in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.” - Will Rogers (paraphrased)

  6. The Following 4 Users High Fived spikerman For This Post:


  7. #20
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Foreverland
    Posts
    8,040

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol) View Post
    Is there a possibility that Peyton is changing some of the plays at the los? Guess we will never know unless either Gase or Peyton say so.
    If there is, Gase needs to put a stop to that. For as great as Manning is, sometimes he needs to let his team play too. I was thinking, Brady/McDaniels certainly run the ball, and they have been about as spotty as we have all year. For as great as Brady is I bet there's times throughout the game he isn't overruling McDaniels run calls.

    I wonder if Manning is so dedicated on running his offense that Gase won't stand up to him.

    Also, will be interesting to see if they even make an attemtp to run the ball. We've heard this before from them.

  8. #21

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by spikerman View Post
    Obviously, running the ball effectively would be great, but even if they're not effective early they need to keep trying - if for no other reason to make the Dolphins have to defend the possibility.
    That's the problem though: As long as we're only getting 3.7 yds/att, they don't HAVE to defend the possibility even IF we keep doing it. They can just keep selling out on the pass and ignoring play-action because, hey, even if it's NOT a fake, so what if they give up 2 yds or less? No DC in his right mind will divert forces from stopping PFM and historys best passing attack to stop THAT.

    Just plugging away's not enough: We must run EFFECTIVELY to legitimize the threat. We don't have to bust 20-30 yd TDs twice per half; just consistently "matriculate the ball down the field" until we force a safety to come up and stack the box, LBs to come up and plug holes, and defensive linemen to look over their shoulder rather than everyone charging Manning or double covering our WRs.
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

    Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
    Love can't be coerced. —Me

  9. #22
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    6-3/215
    Adopted Bronco:
    Mighty Quinn
    Posts
    36,823

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Exactly. we werent a pass only team last year. Knowshon had nearly 1600 all purpose yards!
    I agree, it's all the RB's fault. Good point.
    "Tuning ... into each other ... lift all higher”
    “I’m just different!”
    “ . . . Picture a cup in the middle of the sea”

    Draft
    1st round— Cooper Dejean CB
    2nd round— Jack Sawyer OLB
    3rd round— Will Shipley RB
    4th round— Ricky Pearsall WR
    5th round— Ladd McKonkey WR
    6th round— Cash Jones RB
    7th round— Carson Steele RB

  10. #23
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Adopted Bronco:
    Pat Bowlen
    Posts
    97,305

    Default

    Won't mean shit if the players don't execute.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

  11. #24

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Won't mean shit if the players don't execute.
    True, but if a "top rated" RT and a bunch of All Pros in historys best offense don't execute, what's that imply? A bunch of elite players forgot HOW to play? If only we had someone paid to correct that mistake....
    Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. Jaded

    Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
    Love can't be coerced. —Me

  12. #25

    Default

    The o line needs to step up like Saturday did, let's just run the ****n ball
    kyle "the fainting goat" orton!
    Josh McDinkieDoink McDaniels
    Greatest HC QB Duo, starring in "MY OFFENSE IS OFFENSIVE"

  13. #26
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Adopted Bronco:
    Pat Bowlen
    Posts
    97,305

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    True, but if a "top rated" RT and a bunch of All Pros in historys best offense don't execute, what's that imply? A bunch of elite players forgot HOW to play? If only we had someone paid to correct that mistake....
    Get out the pitch forks.
    *The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    What is this, amateur hour? It's TNF against the Jets and you didn't think you'd need extra booze?

  14. #27
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Minnesota
    Adopted Bronco:
    Von Ware-Wolfe
    Posts
    6,331

    Default

    Is Virgil Green back yet? He would definitely help.
    In Elway We Trust

Go
Shop AFC Champions and Super Bowl gear at the official online Pro Shop of the Denver Broncos!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 2 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Adam Gase talks Broncos’ running game, young backs
    By Denver Native (Carol) in forum Broncos Talk
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-14-2014, 07:06 PM
  2. Mark Kiszla: Adam Gase plans to rev the Denver Broncos' offense
    By Denver Native (Carol) in forum Broncos Talk
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-18-2013, 12:36 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
status.broncosforums.com - BroncosForums status updates
Partner with the USA Today Sports Media Group