If McManus had made that FG and Denver wasn't afraid to kick FGs and for it on 4th down every time it changed this game.
Any FA kickers out there you can see them bringing in?
I know Elway will bring in someone.
If McManus had made that FG and Denver wasn't afraid to kick FGs and for it on 4th down every time it changed this game.
Any FA kickers out there you can see them bringing in?
I know Elway will bring in someone.
"I may not be a mathematician, but I can count to a million." - Shannon Sharpe
Would you rather Ray Finkle?
Normally I'd be fore being patient and giving the guy a chance to improve, but I don't think we have time to do that given that we are 8 weeks from the playoffs. I'm not saying to cut him now, but I'd definitely bring some people in for tryouts to just see what's out there.
Probably not at 40; even for kickers, there's not much career to revive at that age. If we go with a lefty, I STRONGLY prefer the guy Akers narrowly beat out last season. He's just as accurate, more powerful at this point, and the only real issue (i.e. holding for a lefty) is the same for both.
Kickalious: His legs every bit as strong, but he NEVER MISSES (the top priority for a placekicker.) He was 100% in preseason for the Lions last year, including one from 50 and another from 49. The only thing he didn't nail was touchbacks, but that's less of an issue playing half our games at Mile High, and he says he's practiced it enough to get touchbacks consistently now anyway. The only remaining issue is that he's a lefty, and most teams don't like that because if flips the holders stance and motion that they practice till automatic.
I'd rather have practice left-footed holds than have a kicker who's LESS than even money from 40+, and needs a carom to be 100% from <40. Plus we could pay Rugland the same rookie minimum McManus is getting. If a left-footed newbie's out of the question though, Feely's still looking for work, and even an aging vet starter is still nigh automatic inside 50, which is (at least) 10 yds better than McManus. It does no good to have a kicker with a 60 yd leg when he's worse than even money from 40. If you want power, get a punter; place kickers are about accuracy first, power second.
Last edited by Joel; 11-02-2014 at 09:51 PM.
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
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I don't understand why Kickalicious is not on a roster. He has to be better than some of the kickers who currently have jobs.
I'm only going by what he told me, but it's apparently because he's a lefty and teams practice snaps and holds over and over till they're automatic reflexive acts, so they don't want to mess with that by flipping the holder around and sending the ball in from his other side for a lefty. It's probably part of what got Rugland the Lions tryout: They could practice it the same way for him AND Akers. The real question is why they did that but then brought in bums like Henery and I forget whom instead of calling Rugland back when Akers retired; my working theory is "because it's Detroit, and they're morons."
I hear ya though, I see multiple guys ranging from scary to laughable every week and keep wondering how left-footed holds could POSSIBLY be worse. For that matter, it's still legal to drop kick FGs, and his videos include a few of those, so if it's THAT big a deal a team could just have him kick that way and keep their backup QBs hands out of harms way. Oh, well, at least McManus USUALLY hits inside the 20....
Oh, valid point. I thought you meant all starters, you should take the time to be more descriptive, don't be shy. —Jaded
Never confuse frustrated candor and disloyal malice.
Love can't be coerced. —Me
Prater was 5 of 11 in his rookie year from 41-49 yards. Let's give the kid a chance.
I also think we were going for it on 4th down because of the score, not because of our kicker.
Last time I checked, he hasn't cost a game.
That's an incredibly short-sighted way of looking at it. I'd rather fix the problem before it actually does cost us a game instead of just sitting around pretending it's not a problem because it hasn't happened yet.
And I'm not saying he cost us the game yesterday at all, because we were crap all around, but say he makes that FG then the coaches trust him to kick it on the next drive and he makes that one too. Then you are looking at potentially a 20-13 game heading into halftime instead of 27-7, then who knows what happens in the second half.
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