Thread: Ray Rice video released

as I said earlier... the NFL can't ban him. The NFLPA will back their player, THEY HAVE TO. He will get the 6 games that is stated in the rules and someone will sign him after that. They can't ban him, he and/or the NFLPA will sue the NFL. Even if they die ban him and the NFLPA does nothing, that would set a terrible precedent, that they could never live up to... They aren't banning all of them.

Originally Posted by Dzone

Ok, so down the road, Ray will probably get reinstated. Since its his first time, doubt they can enforce a lifetime ban, according to the new rule. The question is, will any team want to take on this circus? Will Ray Rice ever play in the NFL again?

If he gets resinstated im sure there will be teams willing to take him on. But there will be some backlash on it.

Originally Posted by Northman

If he gets resinstated im sure there will be teams willing to take him on. But there will be some backlash on it.

nah... they will just get him some "therapy", show everyone he is a changed man and that will be that. He may not be playing this season but he will definitely be playing next.

Originally Posted by weazel

Originally Posted by Northman

If he gets resinstated im sure there will be teams willing to take him on. But there will be some backlash on it.

nah... they will just get him some "therapy", show everyone he is a changed man and that will be that. He may not be playing this season but he will definitely be playing next.

There is no way a team signs him next season imo. Could not disagree with you more on that one.

People forget, he was terrible last year. It's not like there is any guarantee he is still a good player.

Originally Posted by Northman

I think the reason why Ray's was so severe is because he lied about how it went down. The video was the damning evidence otherwise he would still be only serving the 2 game suspension. But i think McDonald will be the first to lose either 6-8 games.

The Ravens said that Rice described to them basically exactly what they saw on the video, but seeing it on video was simply more shocking than any description could be. Harder to make excuses for a guy when you can see with your own two eyes that what he did was indefensible.

I don't think Ray lied. I think teams are used to this happening with a couple of guys a year, and used to making excuses for them so that they can get the player back on the field ASAP. If this helps put an end to that pathetic charade, then good.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

There is no way a team signs him next season imo. Could not disagree with you more on that one.

People forget, he was terrible last year. It's not like there is any guarantee he is still a good player.

You dont think teams take a shot on a guy with those numbers at a greatly reduced price? He's going to go cheap... and he will get signed

Originally Posted by G_Money

The Ravens said that Rice described to them basically exactly what they saw on the video, but seeing it on video was simply more shocking than any description could be. Harder to make excuses for a guy when you can see with your own two eyes that what he did was indefensible.

I don't think Ray lied. I think teams are used to this happening with a couple of guys a year, and used to making excuses for them so that they can get the player back on the field ASAP. If this helps put an end to that pathetic charade, then good.

Thats not what ive been hearing here in Baltimore. According to the Ravens (im going by what the guys on the talk shows are reporting) Ray said he only pushed his fiance and then she hit her head on the railing. Now, its possible that Ray told them exactly what happened and the Ravens themselves are lying but i guess thats up to whoever wants to believe whoever. But all ive been hearing here is that Ray AND Janay described the events of that night much differently than what the video showed. Take that for what its worth.

Originally Posted by weazel

You dont think teams take a shot on a guy with those numbers at a greatly reduced price? He's going to go cheap... and he will get signed

I think someone will take a chance on him if he remains in the league. Organizations are pretty forgiving and lets face it, the general public quickly move on to the other hot story. Vick got a lot of backlash when he came back but since then its been much ado about nothing. I can see Ray coming back and a team signing him.

IMO, there's no f'ing way he told them exactly what happened. All I ever heard before the video was he shoved her as she was confronting him, and she fell and hit her head knocking her unconscious.

My points earlier in this thread are why are we holding the NFL accountable? Yes, the punishment and addressing of Domestic Abuse is long overdue, but the NFL didn't hit the woman. Ray Rice did.

This video would never be put in front of a jury. It's the perfect example of why Rule 403 exists within the Federal Rules of Evidence. Sometimes evidence that is exceedingly relevant (like a videotape of the event) cannot be used because it will incite an emotional response that outweighs the value the evidence has for showing the truth.

Unfair prejudice refers not to an adverse or detrimental effect of evidence but to an undue tendency to suggest a decision on an improper basis, commonly an emotional one. Unfair prejudice does not arise from the mere fact that evidence injures a party's case. Evidence is unfairly prejudicial only when it tends to have some adverse effect upon a defendant beyond tending to prove the fact or issue that justifies its admission into evidence. The prejudicial effect may be created by the tendency of the evidence to prove some adverse fact not properly in issue or unfairly to excite emotions against the defendant.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

IMO, there's no f'ing way he told them exactly what happened. All I ever heard before the video was he shoved her as she was confronting him, and she fell and hit her head knocking her unconscious.

My points earlier in this thread are why are we holding the NFL accountable? Yes, the punishment and addressing of Domestic Abuse is long overdue, but the NFL didn't hit the woman. Ray Rice did.

And Ray Rice is getting punished.

The NFL needs to be held accountable because it has ignored a problem for many years and needs to address it, which they are doing, albeit inconsistently.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

And Ray Rice is getting punished.

The NFL needs to be held accountable because it has ignored a problem for many years and needs to address it, which they are doing, albeit inconsistently.

And for some reason, you still have a problem with it.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

And for some reason, you still have a problem with it.

Greg Hardy played on Sunday.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...estic-violence

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Greg Hardy played on Sunday.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...estic-violence

The new rules were not put into place until later. He doesnt fall under that umbrella.

Originally Posted by Northman

The new rules were not put into place until later. He doesnt fall under that umbrella.

Neither does Rice.