Thread: Malaysia Airlines flight 17

No one started a thread? I realize it's all that's on the news and everything right now but I'd like ot hear everyone's conspiracy theories.

Do you think whoever shot it down knew it was a passenger plane (how could they not?)

I read this morning that there were over 100 AIDS activists and researchers on the plane heading to a convention in Australia. Of course, the conspiracy theorists are already having a field day with this information.

It's been rumored that the separatists have the black boxes? I wonder how we will get any info if we cant get a hold of those.

How much does the American government get involved in this situation?

Do you think anyone on the plane survived the missile strike or do you think they never knew what hit them? What about the pilots - do you think they could have seen something on the radar?

Has there been any information from the airlines about the last communication they had with the plane?


(My apologies if there is already a thread on this but I didnt see one)

Seems like they thought it was a military aircraft until after they shot it down. That plane was about 6 miles in the air. I dont understand why they would be flying a commercial airliner over a war zone. That is what seems really stupid. Maybe it is a common practice, I dont know

Well they said that plane had taken that route three times in the past week or so but strayed a bit north of the first two flight paths

But I agree I think no commercial jet should be flying over any of these countries right now and I guaranfrickingtee you I would be checking my flight path if I were boarding a plane that could possibly be traveling over a war zone

I wonder if Malayasia Airlines will be more liable for the deaths since they decided to fly over a war zone

Dipshit flew over a war zone. I don't think there's much conspiracy to it.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Dipshit flew over a war zone. I don't think there's much conspiracy to it.

Certainly no conspiracy, but it's a regular route, and routine flight plan that had been filed and approved etc.

The dumbass Russians. .. er, sorry, "Pro-Russian Separatists" mistook it for a military flight and shot it down.

I wish Reagan were here to handle this. I have a feeling big O is about to embarrass himself again.

They had to take a more northern route due to thunderstorms along the regular route.

Originally Posted by slim

I wish Reagan were here to handle this. I have a feeling big O is about to embarrass himself again.

I agree. We could use someone who knows first hand what it's like to be a leader of a super power nation that supplies insurgent forces with weapons.

Don't see how a lot of conspiracy here. Basically, somebody with a buk (sa-17 SAM) was a dumbass and mistook the 777 for a military transport. The sa-17's operate on their own radar system and I'd bet it wasn't the most recent version out there.

To answer some of OB's questions the pilots likely had no clue, unless they saw the smoke trail coming up which is unlikely, and even if they did there wouldn't have been anything they could do, commercial flights don't exactly come equipped with chaffs (radar seeking missle countermeasures), they were dead the second the missle launched basically. Black box probably wouldn't reveal a lot other than a large boom and maybe some garbled screaming....and no....a 777 eating a SAM at 33,000 ft is pretty much the definition of unsurvivable.

I just really hope that for the sake of those on board they had no clue - just once second everything is ok and the next second gone and off to whatever afterlife there may be

Originally Posted by orangenblue420

I just really hope that for the sake of those on board they had no clue - just once second everything is ok and the next second gone and off to whatever afterlife there may be

Even if they survived the explosion they wouldn't have been conscious for long, not enough oxygen.

Originally Posted by orangenblue420

Well they said that plane had taken that route three times in the past week or so but strayed a bit north of the first two flight paths

But I agree I think no commercial jet should be flying over any of these countries right now and I guaranfrickingtee you I would be checking my flight path if I were boarding a plane that could possibly be traveling over a war zone

I wonder if Malayasia Airlines will be more liable for the deaths since they decided to fly over a war zone

Looks like commercial aircraft are avoiding Ukranian airspace now

Originally Posted by tripleoption

Looks like commercial aircraft are avoiding Ukranian airspace now

Am I the only one that freaks out when they see how many planes are in the air at one time. There's some site where you can actually follow the planes in"real time" (like 30 minute delay) but it's kind of freaky

There have been warnings for airlines to avoid Ukranian airspace since at least April because of the conflict

http://www.usnews.com/news/business/...raine-airspace

I'm sure Obama will condemn the actions with great anger.


Then he'll move on to discussig free medical care for illegal aliens. I'm so glad we live in a country where I have to prove I have insurance, but not citizenship. What a freakin' joke.

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