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    OK, what are your favorite route combinations in football. Maybe something you ran in HS, College, or see in the NFL. For me, arrow-curl, spacing, and smash.

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    Do video games count?

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    I think taking the 470 is more convenient than I-25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbfan2007 View Post
    Do video games count?
    If so, I'll go with NFL Blitz's "Da Bomb".
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    Wheel route is always fun if you have a really speedy RB and a LB covering him

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    I would have to say that wide receiver screen route we ran a lot last year is one of my favourites, when it works the right way.

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    We had a 7 on 7 competition tonight. I called spacing about 50% of our plays and the opposing team struggled to stop it. Afterwards the opposing HC asked me if he could meet with me soon and discuss our offense with him, because he really liked the stuff we were doing and he'd like to incorporate what we do into his offense. I see lots of spacing type routes in the NFL. Sean Payton says "Spacing is the backside read to everything".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleoption View Post
    We had a 7 on 7 competition tonight. I called spacing about 50% of our plays and the opposing team struggled to stop it. Afterwards the opposing HC asked me if he could meet with me soon and discuss our offense with him, because he really liked the stuff we were doing and he'd like to incorporate what we do into his offense. I see lots of spacing type routes in the NFL. Sean Payton says "Spacing is the backside read to everything".
    You're basically sitting under a zone on one side while the No. 1 works to get open on the other, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    You're basically sitting under a zone on one side while the No. 1 works to get open on the other, right?
    That's the general idea. The QB takes a pre snap read and decides if he'll throw to the single receiver side. If he feels he can't make the throw due to the defensive structure, then he goes backside to the spacing route. From inside out the #3 runs an arrow route, the #2 runs a sit route, and the #3 runs a mini curl. It's called spacing because the receivers are working to have roughly 6-8 yards of space between them as they break back to the QB.

    This diagram shows spacing from a bunch set. I'll run spacing from bunch, stacked and regular trips sets. Alignment is important so you get the proper spacing between the routes:
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    Here's good youtube video of the Colts and Ravens running spacing out of bunch:

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    That's the option routes the Patriots have run for years. They did it most with Randy Moss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    That's the option routes the Patriots have run for years. They did it most with Randy Moss.
    Oh, yeah, these routes have been around a long time. I first saw them at the HS level about 12 years ago. This has been my first real chance to run the spacing concept and some of the variations of them. Don't quote me on this but I believe Bill Walsh was the first one to start running spacing type concepts in the 80's with his West Coast Offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleoption View Post
    Oh, yeah, these routes have been around a long time. I first saw them at the HS level about 12 years ago. This has been my first real chance to run the spacing concept and some of the variations of them. Don't quote me on this but I believe Bill Walsh was the first one to start running spacing type concepts in the 80's with his West Coast Offense.
    I think so. It also goes hand in hand with the zone concept, with a trips right (or left), single-wide opposite, and the three receivers running deep out, middle out, short out and the back running a flat route. It's about finding seams in zones. The Greatest Show on Turf did that all the time with Warner.
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    There are routes and route combinations that are older than dirt but teams still run them til the cows come home because they work. I've heard there are really no new concepts in football, just resurrected concepts and taking other concepts and taking them to another level.

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    The one thing missing here is the receiver can take the deep route if he and the QB both see the back defense cheating up. That's why it helps to have at least two guys with top speed that can either stretch the secondary to open up more space or burn the secondary with the deep ball if the underneath routes are being covered. That's what D. Thomas and Sanders give us and what J.Thomas can also do if he gets LB coverage.
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    This is a really common route. I call it the smash concept. It's a great route versus most coverages, especially 2 and 3. I run the China and Bench versions in the video, but I don't call it that. For the hitch/corner, we train the inside receiver when he makes his cut to find the dead zone between the corner and safety. If the corner sits it becomes what I call a dead zone out. The QB reads the CB. If the CB drops, he hits the hitch. If the CB plays short, look for the corner. The QB's rule is to NEVER throw the corner route over a retreating CB. I've seen this route concept and variations of it run many times in NFL and college games.


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