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    To give some perspective on what D.T. might expect, here's Mike Wallace's contract with Miami. Calvin Johnson earns more, but then he's Calvin Johnson.

    Year Base: 2013 $1,000,000 Salary Prorated: $2,200,000 Roster Bonus:$0 Workout Bonus: $50,000 $0 Other Bonus: $3,250,000 Cap Hit: $27,000,000 [if they cut him or traded him this year] Cap Savings: [if he remains on the roster] ($23,750,000)

    Year Base: 2014 $15,000,000 Salary Prorated: $2,200,000 Roster Bonus: $0 Workout Bonus: $50,000 $0 Other Bonus: $17,250,000 Cap Hit: $26,800,000 Cap Savings: ($9,550,000)

    Year Base: 2015 Salary: $9,850,000 Prorated: $2,200,000 Roster Bonus: $0 Workout Bonus: $50,000 $0 Other Bonus: $12,100,000 Cap Hit: $9,600,000 Cap Savings: $2,500,000

    Year Base: 2016 Salary: $11,450,000 Prorated: $2,200,000 Roster Bonus: $0 Workout Bonus: $50,000 $0 Other Bonus: $13,700,000 Cap Hit: $4,400,000 Cap Savings: $9,300,000

    Year Base: 2017 Salary: $11,450,000 Prorated: $2,200,000 Roster Bonus: $0 Workout Bonus: $50,000 $0 Other Bonus: $13,700,000 Cap Hit: $2,200,000 Cap Savings: $11,500,000
    You can see how teams structure big mulit-year contracts to reduce the cap hit. He's getting a big bonus, but it's pro-rated over several years time so the individual cap hit isn't that bad. It just costs the Owner a lot of money up front in a signing bonus, but if the player is expected to earn his salary by playing out the contract then it's worth it.

    Mike Wallace had 73 receptions for 930 yards and 5 TDs. D.T. had 92 receptions for 1,430 yards and 14 TDs. So, he should command a bigger contract than Wallace who is currently in 2nd place among WRs in the NFL, but less than Calvin Johnson's overall $113 million contract, with $16 million a year, plus $48 million guarantee. Significantly less.

    I'm going strictly by guaranteed contracts, which is the only portion of the contract money the player will probably ever see. For instance, Calvin Johnson is never getting $100+ million. He's going to get his $48 million, but they will not pay him the last years of that huge contract. They will re-negotiate instead and give him another signing bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoWave View Post
    The Broncos should hire OR as a draft consultant, then just draft all the guys who he says will suck.
    They already have Alfred Williams for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandRaider View Post
    Michael crabtree? Anquan boldin?

    Both would arguably be the best receivers on your team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northman View Post
    Davis and Gronk are better than JT, but both have been in the starting lineup much longer and were already TE's when coming into the league. JT was a basketball player who tried his hand at football. But, i can say with complete confidence that the ceiling for JT is really high and if this past year was any indication, if he can stay healthy he will eclipse anything Davis and Gronk have done. He has that much talent.
    Agreed, the only thing that separates J. Thomas from these other guys is experience. If his numbers are in same range again this year he will more than likely be viewed as one of the top five or six tight ends in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandRaider View Post
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    Also who did Davis have to compete with for catches? He should have been taking over games if hes on the top tier like Graham and Gronk
    Michael crabtree? Anquan boldin?

    Both would arguably be the best receivers on your team.
    If you want to compare welker to boldin okay. NO way would any team rather have Boldin over DT

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...denver-broncos

    ESPN: D. Thomas gets 5-yr offer from Broncos.
    I miss the old Mile High Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeHoof View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...denver-broncos ESPN: D. Thomas gets 5-yr offer from Broncos.
    Wonder what DT might be thinking after the DRC event. JFE seems to be a put-your-final-offer-out-first kinda guy...if they counter will Denver rip the offer off the table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wcben View Post
    If you want to compare welker to boldin okay. NO way would any team rather have Boldin over DT
    Just because Boldin and Crabtree would be the best receivers on the Raiders doesn't mean that they would be the best on the Broncos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    Just because Boldin and Crabtree would be the best receivers on the Raiders doesn't mean that they would be the best on the Broncos.
    TX, you and I would be the best receivers on the Raiders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spikerman View Post
    TX, you and I would be the best receivers on the Raiders.
    No doubt.

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    The Raiders actually have the deepest receiving core in the NFL...

    James Jones
    Rod Steater
    Andre Holmes
    Denarius Moore
    Juron Criner

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    tell us again how jamarcus russell is more talented than elway. . .



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    If the Broncos want to overpay Jacob Tamme...err, Julius Thomas then im all for it.

    DT is a stud tho and deserves every cent he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OaklandRaider View Post
    The Raiders actually have the deepest receiving core in the NFL...

    James Jones
    Rod Steater
    Andre Holmes
    Denarius Moore
    Juron Criner
    That was dumb. Having five receivers all of which are no better than a third option doesn't mean the Raiders have the deepest receiving corps in the NFL.

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