Thread: What Player Would You Sell The Farm For In The Draft?

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

Originally Posted by DenBronx

If Trevathan was so good in the middle then Woody would still be here. Neither guy is a MLB.

dont agree. Wood somehow ended up in del Rios dog house

He was outplayed by Danny T and couldnt play MLB. Maybe thats why.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

If Trevathan was so good in the middle then Woody would still be here. Neither guy is a MLB.

Huh? Trevathan can play there not sure why you would think not.


6'1'' 240lbs? Got speed, instincts and smarts. Can call the defenses. What else does he need?

He played on the outside because he was the best at it on our roster.


As I said in my opion earlier: Von at SLB, Trevathan in the middle, Mack WLB, and Ware at DE? Not to mention Wolfe, Thomas, Vick and Pot Roast.

WOW.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

Clowney was double teamed almoat every play and triple teamed often and still provided pressure, I watched quite a few games of his. He would get the tackle the guard and a RB blocking him. Sacks do not always paint the picture. He provided a lot of pressure on QBs still.

Clowney has such an insanely high ceiling. He is that good. But like any player his attitude and work ethic can ruin him if he tries to skate by with skill alone.

That excuse is getting played out. Every elite prospect has opposing teams game plan around them each week just as the greats do in the NFL. I'm not calling clowney a bust I think he's a top 5 player in this class I just don't think he's a once in a lifetime prospect that everyone is making him out to be.

Has selling the farm EVER wrked for any team?

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

There are some really good players in this draft but I would sell the farm for any of them To me that is unwise and history has shown it proves to be disastrous for the team that does it.

You'll notice that the Seahawks did NOT do that at all. What they did was get solid talent and depth at every position on their defense. When their turn came, they drafted guys like Earl Thomas. They didn't break the bank to get them. The result you saw in the SB - no weaknesses.

Now even that is not a permanent fix because this ain't the 80's NFL where a team like the 49ers could stockpile talent and keep it. Within 2 years the Seahawks are going to be paying Russell Wilson $20 M a year (average salary for franchise SB caliber QBs) and they aren't going to be able to afford to keep a BUNCH of their defensive players. Right now they are paying him less than $1 M, while Aaron Rogers is getting $22M, Matt Ryan $20,750,000, Joe Flacco $20 M, Drew Brees $20M, Peyton Manning ($19.1 M), Tony Romo, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, and Matt Stafford are all getting $18 M.

But, the Seahakws have THIS year before their cap explodes, which makes it tough.

Stay disciplined, and draft the best player available when your # comes up. If you see a player you really like, and it doesn't cost you in future years, then go up and get him, but remember that one of the worst stupidities of the McMoron era was throwing away draft picks to move up and grab that player "we just have to have" only to have him turn out to be Darcel McBath!

Originally Posted by Jaded

Clowney.

Since Clowney is going #1 overall and since nobody is going to trade for that pick, that is pretty irrelevant. He could be the second coming of Michael Strahan as a sack leader, and it wouldn't matter. Nobody but the Texans is getting him.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

He was outplayed by Danny T and couldnt play MLB. Maybe thats why.

Actually he had a shoulder injury that seriously hindered his play. The MLB has to explode to the line of scrimmage and he couldn't do that effectively with a damaged shoulder. Teams are not paying MLBs the same kind of money they used to anyway.

Woodyard is a WLB out of place in the middle.

Originally Posted by EMB6903

That excuse is getting played out. Every elite prospect has opposing teams game plan around them each week just as the greats do in the NFL. I'm not calling clowney a bust I think he's a top 5 player in this class I just don't think he's a once in a lifetime prospect that everyone is making him out to be.

That is again your opinion. But Clowney passes the eye test and again his combine number for a guy his size is jaw dropping dropping. Nobody wants to trade up to #1 unless its a QB. Costs too much for that pick.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

That is again your opinion. But Clowney passes the eye test and again his combine number for a guy his size is jaw dropping dropping. Nobody wants to trade up to #1 unless its a QB. Costs too much for that pick.

The #1 overall pick is worth 3000 points, the #2 pick is worth 2600, and Broncos #31 pick is worth 600. So theoretically, the Broncos would have to give up 5 1st round picks to get that pick. In reality it wouldn't be that much, but it would probably be 3 1st rounders including this year's and a 2nd or something equally insane.

Nobody trades up from #31 to #1. It's too hard for both teams to work a deal where both feel satisfied they got value.

Originally Posted by Cugel

Originally Posted by DenBronx

He was outplayed by Danny T and couldnt play MLB. Maybe thats why.

Actually he had a shoulder injury that seriously hindered his play. The MLB has to explode to the line of scrimmage and he couldn't do that effectively with a damaged shoulder. Teams are not paying MLBs the same kind of money they used to anyway.

Woodyard is a WLB out of place in the middle.

It was also a financial decision. Had Woody played MLB at a high level then hed still be here. But when you have Danny T playing like a monster and for way less then that made sense to let him walk.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

Originally Posted by DenBronx

If Trevathan was so good in the middle then Woody would still be here. Neither guy is a MLB.

dont agree. Wood somehow ended up in del Rios dog house

He was outplayed by Danny T and couldnt play MLB. Maybe thats why.

lol ok or they moved him to fill the gaping hole at mike and simultaneously get Danny on the field. Just like people here have forgotten how well ihenacho played early prior tothetwo ankle injuries. We've also forgotten that wood was solid before hurting his neck and losing half if the beef that had been keeping him clean and allowing him to roam. (Vick and Wolfe). Yes he is light to play mike but he was good pre injury

Originally Posted by Cugel

Since Clowney is going #1 overall and since nobody is going to trade for that pick, that is pretty irrelevant. He could be the second coming of Michael Strahan as a sack leader, and it wouldn't matter. Nobody but the Texans is getting him.

I reject your reality and substitute my own, if I owned a farm I believe it would be enough to make it happen.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I reject your reality and substitute my own, if I owned a farm I believe it would be enough to make it happen.

It would have to be a farm bigger than the King Ranch in Texas!

P.S. for those that don't know, the King Ranch is bigger than Rhode Island.

I'm no draft expert, as I don't follow college football much - outside of CU.

I don't believe there is a single player in this draft worth "selling the farm" for. You're talking about a once in a generation type player to do that for, and if that was the case the Texans would not trade out of that spot.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

I'm no draft expert, as I don't follow college football much - outside of CU.

I don't believe there is a single player in this draft worth "selling the farm" for. You're talking about a once in a generation type player to do that for, and if that was the case the Texans would not trade out of that spot.

I honestly don't think there's any position player who rises to that level of worth, except for QBs. And there's no Andrew Luck in this year's draft. So, sure the Texans would love to trade down out of that pick -- if someone offered them around 3000 points worth of players and draft picks!

Since the 2nd pick is worth 2600 points, the 3rd 2200, 4th 1800, 5th 1700, tenth 1300, 20th 850, 31st 650, and 50th 400 you can see that just to move up from #2 to #1 you would need the #2 and #50 pick in the 2nd round! Teams don't always stick exactly to the points system, but they all think they should get "equal value" which starts with analyzing the points.

So, the team with the #1 overall pick wants a BOATLOAD of picks in exchange because their fans are butt-sore over losing the excitement of that pick. And the team trading up is scared their fans and the media will rip them for being the Minnesota Vikings trading for Herschel Walker.

Thus, it's hard for the #1 pick to trade down. It used to be even harder before the new CBA made rookie salaries more in line with reality.