Thread: Poll - A Golden Shower of Memories of the Josh McDaniels Era!

Originally Posted by atwater27

We have had the worst possible team situation with that tool.

No, we didn't. This is absolute crazy talk. The 0-16 Lions had a worse team situation. The Browns who have not won a playoff game since coming back to Cleveland have had a worse situation. The Raiders last 12 years of futility is a worse situation. We were bad for literally one and a half seasons. The fact that you think the McD era was the worst possible situation a team could have shows how little perspective you have when it comes to other teams' situations.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

The fact that you think the McD era was the worst possible situation a team could have shows how little perspective you have when it comes to other teams' situations.

Not really.

The good news is that we just dont have an owner who is going to put up with that kind of shit for long. Had this team been run by someone like Al Davis or clubs like the Lions and Browns we would still be scraping the bottom of the division barrel. But again, thankfully we have a owner that saw the issue and took the opportunity to correct it before it got way out of hand and we ENDED up like the Lions or Browns. You just cant compare the other clubs to what happened with us because we just didnt have an owner who was going to let it get that bad.

Can we agree not to call it an "era"? I like "the Mcdaniels hickup" seems more fitting right?

Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't think that if given enough time McDaniels would have run the franchise into the ground?

Originally Posted by spikerman

Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't think that if given enough time McDaniels would have run the franchise into the ground?

He ran it into the ground. Make no mistake about that. Thank God we didn't stay there.

Originally Posted by Northman

Not really.

The good news is that we just dont have an owner who is going to put up with that kind of shit for long. Had this team been run by someone like Al Davis or clubs like the Lions and Browns we would still be scraping the bottom of the division barrel. But again, thankfully we have a owner that saw the issue and took the opportunity to correct it before it got way out of hand and we ENDED up like the Lions or Browns. You just cant compare the other clubs to what happened with us because we just didnt have an owner who was going to let it get that bad.

You just made my point for me. The fact that we have an owner like Bowlen is EXACTLY why our team wasn't in "the worst possible team situation" as atwater put it.

Originally Posted by SoCalImport

Can we agree not to call it an "era"? I like "the Mcdaniels hickup" seems more fitting right?

I like "Error", the Josh McDaniels Error.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

You just made my point for me. The fact that we have an owner like Bowlen is EXACTLY why our team wasn't in "the worst possible team situation" as atwater put it.

Well no, the year or so that McDaniels was here was pretty bad dude. While its great that Bowlen took the trash out it doesnt change how crappy that year and a half was and it was a very poor situation for this team to be in. You cant just wipe it away and say its not the worst possible team situation because before McD was cut loose it was a very bad situation. And thankfully our owner didnt allow the guy to further destroy the team.

Originally Posted by Northman

Well no, the year or so that McDaniels was here was pretty bad dude. While its great that Bowlen took the trash out it doesnt change how crappy that year and a half was and it was a very poor situation for this team to be in. You cant just wipe it away and say its not the worst possible team situation because before McD was cut loose it was a very bad situation. And thankfully our owner didnt allow the guy to further destroy the team.

The 0-16 Lions team was a worse situation. The Raiders since their last SB appearance have been a worse situation. The Browns since returning to Cleveland is a worse situation. You are letting your McD hate blind you if you think the situation under him was worse than under those teams. The fact that it only lasted for a year and a half IS relevant. It shows that our roster wasn't nearly as bad off as many of you made it out to be. We've also found out that many of the players he got rid of (Cutler, Sheff, Hillis) weren't near the players Broncos fans thought they were. I'm not saying that last year under McD wasn't bad, but to say it was the worse NFL situation ever is hyperbole to an insane degree.

Originally Posted by Northman

Not really.

The good news is that we just dont have an owner who is going to put up with that kind of shit for long. Had this team been run by someone like Al Davis or clubs like the Lions and Browns we would still be scraping the bottom of the division barrel. But again, thankfully we have a owner that saw the issue and took the opportunity to correct it before it got way out of hand and we ENDED up like the Lions or Browns. You just cant compare the other clubs to what happened with us because we just didnt have an owner who was going to let it get that bad.

If a person can't see that with McDaniels' continual public pissing contests with players and coaches, Spygate II, the lying, and the taking of his staff before Bowlen to dress them down after a lose show a very shallow understanding of just how bad things were. I don't recall hearing those kinds of things with the Lions or the Browns.

Originally Posted by Jaded

I like "Error", the Josh McDaniels Error.

You're very witty.

Originally Posted by spikerman

Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't think that if given enough time McDaniels would have run the franchise into the ground?

Jrwiz thought McDaniels was doing a great job.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

The 0-16 Lions team was a worse situation. The Raiders since their last SB appearance have been a worse situation. The Browns since returning to Cleveland is a worse situation. You are letting your McD hate blind you if you think the situation under him was worse than under those teams. The fact that it only lasted for a year and a half IS relevant. It shows that our roster wasn't nearly as bad off as many of you made it out to be. We've also found out that many of the players he got rid of (Cutler, Sheff, Hillis) weren't near the players Broncos fans thought they were. I'm not saying that last year under McD wasn't bad, but to say it was the worse NFL situation ever is hyperbole to an insane degree.

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said that Denver OVERALL was worse than the Lions or Browns. I said for that time period we were pretty damn pathetic and had it not been for Bowlen we quickly would of been on our way to being like the Lions or Browns. Two different things entirely. You can try to sugarcoat it all you want but there is clearly no doubt that the McDaniels tenure is one of the worst in Denver Bronco history since the team began having success in the late 70's. Even the Wade Phillips tenure wasnt nearly as bad as it was with McD and that was pretty bad.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

No, we didn't. This is absolute crazy talk. The 0-16 Lions had a worse team situation. The Browns who have not won a playoff game since coming back to Cleveland have had a worse situation. The Raiders last 12 years of futility is a worse situation. We were bad for literally one and a half seasons. The fact that you think the McD era was the worst possible situation a team could have shows how little perspective you have when it comes to other teams' situations.

Dude, you just liked your own post. The most beautiful thing about this golden showers for mcDouche thread is that it is the gift that keeps on giving. Every time it dies down for awhile, some random McDouche lover will come back in and make a lame attempt to try to defend him, which unleashes a glorious fresh torrent of golden showers upon him.

Originally Posted by atwater27

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

No, we didn't. This is absolute crazy talk. The 0-16 Lions had a worse team situation. The Browns who have not won a playoff game since coming back to Cleveland have had a worse situation. The Raiders last 12 years of futility is a worse situation. We were bad for literally one and a half seasons. The fact that you think the McD era was the worst possible situation a team could have shows how little perspective you have when it comes to other teams' situations.

Dude, you just liked your own post. The most beautiful thing about this golden showers for mcDouche thread is that it is the gift that keeps on giving. Every time it dies down for awhile, some random McDouche lover will come back in and make a lame attempt to try to defend him, which unleashes a glorious fresh torrent of golden showers upon him.

Nice dodge there. I'll take your evasion of my point as admittance that your "worst team situation ever" comment was a really stupid one.