Thread: A McDaniels Recap

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

So then no coach should every get credit for a first round pick being a good player? Is that what we are saying now? Ok, fine. By this logic, many people had Ayers as a first round grade, should McD should get no criticism for this pick, because had he not picked him in the first round someone else would have.

Sure. Let's talk about how he traded up to the first round for Tebow and up into the second round for Richard Quinn. McEgo thought he could turn guys like that into something. DT and Decker were nothing when McDumbass was here with Tebow at QB. They didn't become Pro Bowlers and decent players til he was gone.

Not just the fact that he brought shame and dishonor to the franchise, I also hate McDouche because he's plain and simply a bad guy. He's just a shit stain of a human being.








Also, because of him I had to waste two+ years of my Broncofandom watching that lethargic loser Kyle Orton QB this team, if you can even call it that.

DT was injured early in his career, so that is hardly fair. And Decker was quite good with Tebow as his QB.

And I agree with you that Tebow and Quinn were both reaches. But that doesn't mean you get to take away from the picks that he did get right. Once again, not really all that fair.

It's a ridiculous double standard that he doesn't get credit for the first round picks he hit on but he gets to take the blame for the ones he missed on. I can't wait to see if this same logic is used when people are grading Elway's drafts years down the line.

If Knowshon Moreno had 1st round talent there's something wrong with your grading system, the rest of the '09 class isn't worth the bandwidth.

DT was a huge risk that high, he was well on his way to being drafted too high before Broncos fixed their QB situation, and to compound this risk he took the same risk on Decker in the 3rd. Walton and Beadles just plain sucked and would have been replaced long ago had the Broncos not been so pass heavy.

To be brutally honest, we're grading all these draft picks entirely different if the Broncos never sign a Manning and bring in a legitimate NFL coaching staff. Most of Doogie's draft picks sucked and those that did not were damn near ruined by the ridiculous environment he put them in.

Had they given McDaniels another season this woulda been even worse, dude was world class incompetent and dysfunctional to boot, he wasn't even much good at what supposedly got him hired in the first place.

I challenge you to find a single reputable draft analyst who didn't have Moreno with a first round grade pre-draft.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

I challenge you to find a single reputable draft analyst who didn't have Moreno with a first round grade pre-draft.

None of that shit even matters. He was a first class ******** who got busted recording other team's practices, treated people like shit, forced me to watch Kyle Orton, and let his personality get in the way of the team's success. **** him, he's a bad person and I don't like him.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

None of that shit even matters. He was a first class ******** who got busted recording other team's practices, treated people like shit, forced me to watch Kyle Orton, and let his personality get in the way of the team's success. **** him, he's a bad person and I don't like him.

59 - 14. To the Raiders. That's enough in and of itself

Originally Posted by chazoe60

None of that shit even matters. He was a first class ******** who got busted recording other team's practices, treated people like shit, forced me to watch Kyle Orton, and let his personality get in the way of the team's success. **** him, he's a bad person and I don't like him.

Again, none of this has to do with the topic of this thread, which is his draft classes.

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Again, none of this has to do with the topic of this thread, which is his draft classes.

Alphonso Smith

Originally Posted by BroncoWave

Decent 2010 draft. Was hit and miss but produced an all-pro level player and a couple of solid starters. Pretty bad 09 draft in hindsight. Moreno and Ayers are both decent players, but not first round talents. Bruton is a great special teamer. Richard Quinn might be the worst draft pick ever though.

Overall, not the best two drafts ever, but not the worst either. I'd give 2010 a B+ and the 2009 draft a D.

What he did to get Alphonso Smith tops the Richard Quinn selection.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

Alphonso Smith

Go back and look at my first post. I gave that draft a D. I'm not debating any of his bad picks. I'm just debating the shit-tastic logic that he doesn't get credit for his good ones.