Thread: Broncos sign Andre Caldwell to two year contract

I get that Caldwell is a security signing, but he's not all that impressive when he is on the field and he'll not replace Decker as so many readily believe. We're talking about the same receiver that has been given the opportunity to be a starter in Cincinnati and he underperformed and if he was capable here, then could have easily been more effective when he was given a shot and yet, he still underperforms. Maybe Manning can coach him up, but all in all this was a depth/security move and with how free agency is playing out, Denver will likely be taking a receiver to replace Decker high in the draft.

Originally Posted by Lancane

I get that Caldwell is a security signing, but he's not all that impressive when he is on the field and he'll not replace Decker as so many readily believe. We're talking about the same receiver that has been given the opportunity to be a starter in Cincinnati and he underperformed and if he was capable here, then could have easily been more effective when he was given a shot and yet, he still underperforms. Maybe Manning can coach him up, but all in all this was a depth/security move and with how free agency is playing out, Denver will likely be taking a receiver to replace Decker high in the draft.

I just don't get it. If Denver can't make a SuperBowl run with an improved defense that is arguably top 5 like it was 2 years ago and more physical, along with Peyton Manning, Welker, the 2 Thomas's, Caldwell, and whomever, then this organization is in serious, serious, trouble when they move on from Manning.

Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

I just don't get it. If Denver can't make a SuperBowl run with an improved defense that is arguably top 5 like it was 2 years ago and more physical, along with Peyton Manning, Welker, the 2 Thomas's, Caldwell, and whomever, then this organization is in serious, serious, trouble when they move on from Manning.

Not everyone can be what you want them to be simply by clicking your heels and demanding such. I am not saying that we can not go anywhere without, I am simply stating that Caldwell isn't that damn good so don't count on him being anything but fodder for the next two years. The fact that the Broncos are looking at Brandon LaFell says just as much, he can at least be productive.

Originally Posted by jhildebrand

Bye Bye Decker

I don't think this has anything to do with Decker my friend. Caldwell is a 5th option receiver.

Originally Posted by Lancane

I get that Caldwell is a security signing, but he's not all that impressive when he is on the field and he'll not replace Decker as so many readily believe. We're talking about the same receiver that has been given the opportunity to be a starter in Cincinnati and he underperformed and if he was capable here, then could have easily been more effective when he was given a shot and yet, he still underperforms. Maybe Manning can coach him up, but all in all this was a depth/security move and with how free agency is playing out, Denver will likely be taking a receiver to replace Decker high in the draft.

I've heard this draft is deep at wide receiver. Caldwell is not a 4th option he's a 5th option. Those who say he's a 4th optionare basically saying he's a starter in this offense and that's faulty thinking. Would he put up better numbers playing with Manning on full time basis? Sure. Would he put number similar to J. Thomas who was the forth option last year? I doubt it.

Just out of curiousity - where do you guys think our offense would be this year if we went into the season with Thomas, Thomas, Welker, Caldwell, and then a bunch of scrub no name fill ins that would never play barring injury?

Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

Just out of curiousity - where do you guys think our offense would be this year if we went into the season with Thomas, Thomas, Welker, Caldwell, and then a bunch of scrub no name fill ins that would never play barring injury?

Manning is always going to have a good offense. But Caldwell's talent allows teams to double up on DT and keep faster corners in on Welker. So the offense isn't nearly as good, because Decker provided a serious #2 problem that most teams don't have. It will always be a good offense with Manning, but not NEARLY as good with only Caldwell as the Z.

Originally Posted by luckyseven

pretty sure that is what he said.

sounds like you have a reason for not liking him

Sounds to me like you are wrong. I'm just not looking at it with closed "yay we signed a guy that was here before" eyes.

Caldwell showed last year that he could be productive in this offense when given a chance. He'll be a solid #3 for a year or two.

Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

Just out of curiousity - where do you guys think our offense would be this year if we went into the season with Thomas, Thomas, Welker, Caldwell, and then a bunch of scrub no name fill ins that would never play barring injury?

I think we would be fine, especially with the additions on defense so far. But, one thing that doesnt get talked about much is Decker's ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. Honestly, Welker is fine when he's healthy but the last few years have not been kind to him throughout a season so if he goes down (or even DT) than what is left? Do we really think that Caldwell can pick up that kind of slack? No way. If Denver stays healthy than having Decker walk is great. But i personally would rather go in with DT/Decker who have more chemistry with Manning as well as their youth to work with Oz afterwards. The only reason why im ok with Decker walking at this point in time is because we actually got some impact defensive players to where the pressure wont be on the offense as much as it was last year. Again though, barring injury.

Originally Posted by Bosco

Caldwell showed last year that he could be productive in this offense when given a chance. He'll be a solid #3 for a year or two.

He's not a solid #3 at all, and will be replaced either by FA this year, or via the draft this year.

Originally Posted by Northman

I think we would be fine, especially with the additions on defense so far. But, one thing that doesnt get talked about much is Decker's ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. Honestly, Welker is fine when he's healthy but the last few years have not been kind to him throughout a season so if he goes down (or even DT) than what is left? Do we really think that Caldwell can pick up that kind of slack? No way. If Denver stays healthy than having Decker walk is great. But i personally would rather go in with DT/Decker who have more chemistry with Manning as well as their youth to work with Oz afterwards. The only reason why im ok with Decker walking at this point in time is because we actually got some impact defensive players to where the pressure wont be on the offense as much as it was last year. Again though, barring injury.

I was mor thinking for AM (after Manning) for the need of Decker more than anything else. We know Welker will be one to be leaving very soon, and Manning will be leaving. Having a DT and Decker for ANY young QB we have come in wwould be HUGE in keeping this offense viable.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

He's not a solid #3 at all, and will be replaced either by FA this year, or via the draft this year.

The film says otherwise. He filled in for Welker with little drop off in production.

Originally Posted by Bosco

The film says otherwise. He filled in for Welker with little drop off in production.

How about John Elway confirms otherwise? I think that is an end to the argument. Elway told the Post after signing Ware that they are still looking to add a veteran receiver to replace Decker, LaFell is their top choice. They are also looking at available guards and centers to bolster the line and were interested in Beason before he re-signed with New York. So the Broncos are not done in Free Agency and if they felt Caldwell was a solid number two or three, well then he wouldn't be looking for that receiver still as we speak.

Originally Posted by Lancane

How about John Elway confirms otherwise? I think that is an end to the argument. Elway told the Post after signing Ware that they are still looking to add a veteran receiver to replace Decker, LaFell is their top choice. They are also looking at available guards and centers to bolster the line and were interested in Beason before he re-signed with New York. So the Broncos are not done in Free Agency and if they felt Caldwell was a solid number two or three, well then he wouldn't be looking for that receiver still as we speak.

Looking to make an upgrade (which I support) does not invalidate what I said.