Thread: Super Bowl XLVIII: Denver Broncos vs. Seattle Seahawks

What does farmers almanac say?

Originally Posted by slim

What does farmers almanac say?

I dont think it matters. I just looked at a forecast that said high of 36 with 9 mph winds. Another one probably says 25 with 40 mph winds. I'll take it more seriously next Friday

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

I dont think it matters. I just looked at a forecast that said high of 36 with 9 mph winds. Another one probably says 25 with 40 mph winds. I'll take it more seriously next Friday

Yeah, I will probably wait until the night before to check out the forecast.

Originally Posted by slim

I didn't know about his Boston accent. I'm afraid I don't like him anymore.

I choose to look past it. He was smart enough to forego the Pansies and root for the Broncos, that has to mean something!

Originally Posted by slim

What does farmers almanac say?

it says peyton manning is a badass. . .

Originally Posted by GEM

I choose to look past it. He was smart enough to forego the Pansies and root for the Broncos, that has to mean something!

Good point. He does seem like a nice guy in that video.

Med, come give us some Bronco love.

Originally Posted by dogfish

it says peyton manning is a badass. . .

So it is written, so shall it be.

Originally Posted by dogfish

it says peyton manning is a badass. . .

My wife was like, "what are all these PFM" shirts? It looks like it has something to do with the Broncos." I said, that's Peyton _____ Manning. ,

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Manning drug far inferior Colts teams kicking and screaming to the divisional round of the playoffs, the AFC Championship, two Super Bowl appearances and one Super Bowl victory over the course of 12 or 13 years, and you're telling me you don't think he singlehandedly makes that much of a difference?

We just watched a New England team falling apart at the seams and lacking ANY offensive skill position talent make it all the way to the AFC Championship game because they have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, who just happens to be probably the most competitive son of a bitch to play this game.

I know you were busy being a Kosar fan in the 80s, but Elway also single-handedly drug a team kicking and screaming to the playoffs year in and year out that didn't even remotely belong in the playoffs, and that included THREE Super Bowl appearances.

You can downplay quarterback play all you want, and opine about Bradshaw, or Dilfer, or whoever else you want to use to exemplify a bad argument, but quarterback play matters. You don't get to go far in the playoffs with shitty quarterback play. Look at the Ravens last year. Joe Flacco put on the performance of his life to do what they did, and he'll likely never duplicate that type of run.

I was busy being a KOSAR fan in the '80s? Are you serious?! Yeah, all us Oilers fans loved Kosar, almost as much as Esiason. Posting a thread MOCKING Kosar because his daughter does porn doesn't make me a fan except in the minds of those convinced of hatred for all things Broncos.

You can believe a great QB singlehandedly makes a team contenders all YOU want, but it won't make Tarkenton, Marino nor Kelly champions, nor make Griese, Bradshaw, Williams, Simms, Dilfer nor Flacco any less champions. I'd like to believe having a first ballot HoFer under center is enough to prevent a playoff loss to a scrub like Flacco, but we all know it wasn't.

I guess the QB I DID love during the '80s is a scrub, too, because, despite 7 straight playoff trips, none of his teams ever made it past the divisional round, and we all know a great QB is an automatic trip to the Conference Championship, so Warren Moon must've been crap: MO has spoken.

Originally Posted by GEM

Our worst is better than mosts best. Is it ideal? No. It took those couple of terrible years to get to where we are now.

Are you not entertained?

Your argument was those 10 years WEREN'T terrible, that teams like Cleveland and Buffalo would be glad to have them. They were pretty terrible, however much losers might envy them.

Originally Posted by Joel

I was busy being a KOSAR fan in the '80s? Are you serious?! Yeah, all us Oilers fans loved Kosar, almost as much as Esiason. Posting a thread MOCKING Kosar because his daughter does porn doesn't make me a fan except in the minds of those convinced of hatred for all things Broncos.

You can believe a great QB singlehandedly makes a team contenders all YOU want, but it won't make Tarkenton, Marino nor Kelly champions, nor make Griese, Bradshaw, Williams, Simms, Dilfer nor Flacco any less champions. I'd like to believe having a first ballot HoFer under center is enough to prevent a playoff loss to a scrub like Flacco, but we all know it wasn't.

I guess the QB I DID love during the '80s is a scrub, too, because, despite 7 straight playoff trips, none of his teams ever made it past the divisional round, and we all know a great QB is an automatic trip to the Conference Championship, so Warren Moon must've been crap: MO has spoken.


Your argument was those 10 years WEREN'T terrible, that teams like Cleveland and Buffalo would be glad to have them. They were pretty terrible, however much losers might envy them.

I'm going to find out if we can just start a forum called BitchFest specifically for you and your pessimism. Until then....shoooooo! You're bringing us all down!

Originally Posted by GEM

I'm going to find out if we can just start a forum called BitchFest specifically for you and your pessimism. Until then....shoooooo! You're bringing us all down!

why do people who hate Joel's posts read and reply to them? I dont' read Joels posts because I really dont' like to stick forks in my eyes, but I love his sweekt and short mhs's ..... that's right Joel and I are pm buddies, and happen to agree on a lot of things!!!!

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

No, but if Manning did not lead Denver to a Super Bowl, his signing should have been considered a failure.I think if he were candid, Peyton himself would tell you the same thing. What I am saying is that the Manning signing changed the team's emphasis from building through the draft to "win it all now". With Manning's age and small window, that's the only reason you'd sign him is to win now. I think our personnel would look considerably different had Manning signed elsewhere.

Hoof, I don't think the Manning signing altered our draft plans at all. If they had, we wouldn't have spent a second round pick on a future QB. Elway has been all about taking the BPA regardless of position, and trading down for value. He also hasn't made any huge free agent signings outside of Manning. Vasquez was the only large contract last season, and it wasn't gaudy at all.

Originally Posted by AGap

why do people who hate Joel's posts read and reply to them? I dont' read Joels posts because I really dont' like to stick forks in my eyes, but I love his sweekt and short mhs's ..... that's right Joel and I are pm buddies, and happen to agree on a lot of things!!!!

I don't want to hear what you and Joel do in pm, gap. It was bad enough hearing about what you and your dog did.

Originally Posted by GEM

I don't want to hear what you and Joel do in pm, gap. It was bad enough hearing about what you and your dog did.

I noticed that Mo saluted this post. boy you have a great following Gem. and with this post and your obsession with my banging of dogs, I would say you have filled in for Cswil quite nicely.


Enjoy your angry midget

Originally Posted by Tned

No offense, but the not to be named thing is stupid. I REALLY wanted Tebow to succeed. I was about as much in his camp as any rational person (meaning, anyone that wasn't a Tebow fanatic) could be. However, he truly did suck as an NFL QB. I though Schlereth was completely over the top when I heard him on the radio screaming, "he can't even complete 50% against air!!!!!!" when he was referring to how poorly he performs in practice. However, many weeks later, when I was down on the field for warmups before the week 17 game against the Chiefs (when we backed into playoffs before Pitt win), I saw exactly what he talked about. During warmups, he was lucky if he was 50% throwing. His throws were so bad that on 30%+ of his warmup throws the receivers didn't even raise their arms and attempt to make a play on the ball.

There is a reason that he hasn't even gotten a sniff by another team, other than the publicity stunt by the Jets. He simply can't cut it as an NFL QB.

Now, beyond your unfounded belief that Tebow would have become a franchise QB, the next complete failure in thought process is that "building" around him would have stacked the team for 9-10 years. That is just simply a fantasy, not a reality. Between draft failures, injuries and players lost to free agency, you would be lucky to get even a few players that are both impact players and on the team for 9-10 years.

I don't dare speak his name because everytime I do it turns into... this. Simply typing the word is somehow enough to make me a diehard Teboi who's always been screaming his greatness and will never stop. Even though I loathed the guy from before he was even drafted—then we dumped Cutler and blew a first round pick an overrated jack of all trades and master of none, just because the amateur football world thinks everyone who ever played in the SEC craps rainbows. Quinn sucks (much the same deal; the only thing better than an SEC player is a Notre Dame player, right?) but I preferred HIM to Tebow when we pulled Orton. Tebow won me over against my will, and took three solid months to do it.

So, yeah, I can admit error when proven; he's a classic example of just that, so it's comical when people say admitting a big error prove I can't admit error. But if I haven't ordered a Tebow Dart Board yet, I'm not married to the guy either. I'm a "wait and see" kind of guy, which is why he needed half a season of starts to convince me he had any potential. I don't like committing either way without a long consistent pattern of evidence, which is why the firmest thing I said about Manning was that peoples heads would explode if he didn't take us to an AFCCG within 2 years.

Well, he did, so nothing anyone said would happen if he didn't no longer matters. Not only did we reach the AFCCG within 2 years, we won and are in the SB, so I'm kind of in the same place with Manning that I was with Tebow two Thanksgivings ago. Hopefully we've got enough of a team by now that Manning doesn't have to do it alone against a very good team, so I don't spend the next two years insisting "Manning didn't lose that game, no matter how many people insist he did," while everyone complains I can't admit when I'm wrong.

Meanwhile, we don't know WHAT Tebow would/n't have done as Denvers second year starter, any more than we know what would've happened if Manning hadn't taken us to an AFCCG yet.