Thread: Broncos future with Brock Osweiler

Originally Posted by Northman

At this point Denver doesnt need to draft another QB. If they had nobody than maybe i could see them drafting Barkley or Jones but its not needed. If they want to take a guy in the later rounds so be it but spending another high pick on a QB would be moronic considering we havent even seen the current guy play yet.

But who is gonna compete with Osweiler for 2nd string? You can't just hide Osweiler.......

Originally Posted by Jaded

But who is gonna compete with Osweiler for 2nd string? You can't just hide Osweiler.......

I suggest we sign Alex Smith to a $40 million contract to be third string.

Originally Posted by Chef Zambini

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tyhe comparison beoing ONLY that he was guaranteed the starting job and never really had to compete for it, that was my comparison.

As silk pointed out, you complained that we signed Hanie because it showed that Os wasn't even good enough to back Manning up, despite being a 2nd round pick, while other rookie QBs were starting. This tied in with your "Elway was so obsessed with drafting Os.." rant. Then Os obviously beat out Hanie, but now you are complaining that Os will be "handed" the starting job (possibly 3 years down the road) based purely on the theory that we probably won't draft another QB (now) to compete with him for the NUMBER TWO (#2) spot.

Then you want to compare Os to Sanchez because Sanchez was "given" the starting job for the Jets despite the fact that Osweiler hasn't started a single game. I guess, going by that logic we could say that Os is the same as Andrew Luck and RGIII...getting the job without competition.

Much like Matt Ryan, Blain Gabbert, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Brandon Weeden, Matt Stafford, Mike Vick, Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, and Drew Brees were.

However, it would seem that Os sitting a year or so would have him compared to guys like Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, and Matt Shaub.

So please clarify for us, who is it that you think he should be compared to and why? Handed the job with no competition for the ...back-up... position?

Originally Posted by Chef Zambini

you are right, Ilike kellen moore, and I hope he gets an opportunity to play on gameday, someday.
the knock on kellen is he is too SMALL. the same knock on russel wilson.
yes I compared brock to sanchez,
tyhe comparison beoing ONLY that he was guaranteed the starting job and never really had to compete for it, that was my comparison.

I also said his cicumstances are most similar to aaron rogers, but just ignore that for the sake of your arguement.

Osweiler hasn't been guaranteed anything and when did supplant Manning as the starter?

You sure do whine an awful a lot. I don't give a crap if brought up Rodger or not. Osweiler's situation can't be like both Sanchez's and Rodger's because their situations are polar opposites. You trying hold two opposing arguments at the same freaking time why? So that you cry about how you're victim of being misrepresnted? All that is a crutch.

Put your money where Elway quaranteed he is the starter upon Manning's retirement? Fact is he hasn't.

What is with this garbage about hiding Osweiler. That is absolutetly stupid. Being the number 2 quarterback isn't anywhere near close to being hid because as Manning's primary back up quarterback Osweiler is always just one play away from having to go onto the field.

It's pretty damned hypocritcal of you to take one little phrase of Elway's to whine about Osweiler beign heir apparrent yet you flat out ignore what Elway said about who sets the depth chart. At Fox's hiring Elway made it clear that Fox sets the depth chart. He gets decides who sits and who plays. So if Fox really was trying to hide Osweiler it doesn't take a lot smarts to figure out that he be the number 3 rather than the number 2 quarterback.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

As silk pointed out, you complained that we signed Hanie because it showed that Os wasn't even good enough to back Manning up, despite being a 2nd round pick, while other rookie QBs were starting. This tied in with your "Elway was so obsessed with drafting Os.." rant. Then Os obviously beat out Hanie, but now you are complaining that Os will be "handed" the starting job (possibly 3 years down the road) based purely on the theory that we probably won't draft another QB (now) to compete with him for the NUMBER TWO (#2) spot.

Then you want to compare Os to Sanchez because Sanchez was "given" the starting job for the Jets despite the fact that Osweiler hasn't started a single game. I guess, going by that logic we could say that Os is the same as Andrew Luck and RGIII...getting the job without competition.

Much like Matt Ryan, Blain Gabbert, Joe Flacco, Cam Newton, Brandon Weeden, Matt Stafford, Mike Vick, Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, and Drew Brees were.

However, it would seem that Os sitting a year or so would have him compared to guys like Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Eli Manning, and Matt Shaub.

So please clarify for us, who is it that you think he should be compared to and why? Handed the job with no competition for the ...back-up... position?

I get a kick out his line about how Elway is trying hide Osweiler on the bench. It's not like Osweiler being the number two quarterback is only one play away from having go into a game. Lets also ignore the fact it's Fox who gets to set the depth chart.

Tommmy Maddox

I think Caleb Hanie is an absolute waste of space. I'd rather draft a QB 6th or 7th rd and have him sit there and compete with Brock, either that or bring back Adam Weber for a bag of footballs.

Originally Posted by Northman

At this point Denver doesnt need to draft another QB. If they had nobody than maybe i could see them drafting Barkley or Jones but its not needed. If they want to take a guy in the later rounds so be it but spending another high pick on a QB would be moronic considering we havent even seen the current guy play yet.

thank you north man for at least being forthcoming with your belier=f that os is indeedd our future QB and bringing in another QB would be unproductive, at best.
at least you have a pair and are willing to express your opinioin on Os as the unquestioned and "un-rivaled' heir apparent.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

Osweiler hasn't been guaranteed anything and when did supplant Manning as the starter?

You sure do whine an awful a lot. I don't give a crap if brought up Rodger or not. Osweiler's situation can't be like both Sanchez's and Rodger's because their situations are polar opposites. You trying hold two opposing arguments at the same freaking time why? So that you cry about how you're victim of being misrepresnted? All that is a crutch.

Put your money where Elway quaranteed he is the starter upon Manning's retirement? Fact is he hasn't.

What is with this garbage about hiding Osweiler. That is absolutetly stupid. Being the number 2 quarterback isn't anywhere near close to being hid because as Manning's primary back up quarterback Osweiler is always just one play away from having to go onto the field.

It's pretty damned hypocritcal of you to take one little phrase of Elway's to whine about Osweiler beign heir apparrent yet you flat out ignore what Elway said about who sets the depth chart. At Fox's hiring Elway made it clear that Fox sets the depth chart. He gets decides who sits and who plays. So if Fox really was trying to hide Osweiler it doesn't take a lot smarts to figure out that he be the number 3 rather than the number 2 quarterback.

"... as Manning's primary back up quarterback Osweiler is always just one play away from having to go onto the field."
oh really? is that what happened with tebow in NY?
he was GIFTED the #2 spot just like OSZ but when it came time to actually name a STARTER to replace an injured sanchez, who got the job?
OS never took the field as the #2 QB in PRE_SEASON ! haine was always the one to replace manning ! OS never faced the #1 or #2 defense at ANY time in the pre-season.
yes, I am calling out JFE for hiding BO from top competition !

Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

Chef also said denver keeping hanie meant brock couldnt beat him out, even though brock beat him out abd was the backup qb the entire season.

i like soup.

sanchez, no competition for his job.
osweiler, noi competition for his job,

this is the sum totas of my compoarison between sanchez and osweiler.



worthless sacks of dogshit may try to create other hosrseshit comparisons for the sake of their small minded hostile,false accusations but this is my simple comparison.
sanchez, no competition, osweiler, no competition, PERIOD !

Zam no offense but I think competition for the backup QB position is somewhere between emergency punter and starting equipment manager on the list of priorities.

NFL teams are lucky to have a starter much less three.......

Ya know who the Packers brought in to "Rival" Aaron Rodgers in his second season? Todd Bouman and Ingle Martin.

His 3rd season? Craig Nall.

Ya see where I'm going with this?

His 4th season? They did bring in Brian Brohm and that turned out real well for the Packers.......

Originally Posted by Chef Zambini

"... as Manning's primary back up quarterback Osweiler is always just one play away from having to go onto the field."
oh really? is that what happened with tebow in NY?
he was GIFTED the #2 spot just like OSZ but when it came time to actually name a STARTER to replace an injured sanchez, who got the job?
OS never took the field as the #2 QB in PRE_SEASON ! haine was always the one to replace manning ! OS never faced the #1 or #2 defense at ANY time in the pre-season.
yes, I am calling out JFE for hiding BO from top competition !

I don't give a damn what they do in New York. Maybe you're not aware of this, but how the Jets handle their quarterback situation doesn't dictate how Denver will handle their quarterback situation does it?

I think Osweiler was the second one off the bench during the preseason at least once but even if you're correct what the hell does that prove? That's Zam nothing. Apparently you're unaware of the fact that for most of season Hanie ended up being a game day deactivation. So your argument using the New Jets situation is really weak. Edit: I was wrong Hanie wasn't deactivated most of the season he was deactived for all 16 games.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/ro...a-84c0b5e9c1b3

2012: Hanie was inactive for all 16 games during the 2012 regular season.

Now would you like carry on with the assisine comparison to Tebow in New York or are you going pull something equally as assinine from your rear end?

Amazing you've cried that you've been misrepresnted about calling Elway incompetent and or lazy yet you keep whinny about some how Elway is trying hide Osweiler. That is really dumb. You act like know how the inner workings of the team are handled but you don't know jack. You are calling Elway incompetent whether you can admit it or not.

Originally Posted by Chef Zambini

sanchez, no competition for his job.
osweiler, noi competition for his job,

this is the sum totas of my compoarison between sanchez and osweiler.



worthless sacks of dogshit may try to create other hosrseshit comparisons for the sake of their small minded hostile,false accusations but this is my simple comparison.
sanchez, no competition, osweiler, no competition, PERIOD !

You're entitled to hold whatever opinion you wish but ignorance is still ignorance.