Thread: What are you reading?

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

Surely King's enemy isn't reason.

Most quick criticisms of Peterson have completely taken him out of context (which is easy to do with a guy who explores every nook and cranny of an issue) and turned him into something unrecognizable.

Valid criticisms basically boil down to, "he's just saying things other, smarter people already said hundreds of years ago." Which is true.

Ok, I am confused. Why did people dislike him?

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Ok, I am confused. Why did people dislike him?

Quick answer: For lack of a better phrase, because he "thinks out loud", and will entertain and reject all kinds of notions as he works toward a solution/answer to a problem. Someone who does that opens themselves up to being taken out of context.

He also rejects vociferously the idea of "safe spaces" and all manner of groupthink.

Consequently, he doesn't have many allies in mainstream University campuses.

Maybe King87 can give a concrete example if he wants.

King87 is unable to provide any examples without crossing into P and R territory. He does think out loud, and that is a killer sometimes, which is unfortunate.

Originally Posted by King87

King87 is unable to provide any examples without crossing into P and R territory. He does think out loud, and that is a killer sometimes, which is unfortunate.

Provocative is probably a good word for him.

I tend to like provocative guys/gals whatever side of whatever spectrum.

Law school has changed me a bit. Peterson is a modern philosopher, and I guess that's good. We need more prominent thinkers in the mainstream media.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

I had never read The Old Man And The Sea.

I fixed that in one sitting this evening. Brilliant.

It’s probably been 35 years since I read that book, and I can still remember being captured by it.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

It’s probably been 35 years since I read that book, and I can still remember being captured by it.

Well, if a book captures you, you'd be a crappy whale for an old man to fish for. Or was that Moby Dick? Whatever. Water's water my man!

Reaing materials for Dave if he would like to see Jordan Peterson through the lens of American politics:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.221b963efc84
https://www.theguardian.com/science/...a-hornets-nest
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...of-masculinity
https://reason.com/archives/2018/06/...on-vs-the-left
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/...father-figure/

I have no opinion because it sounds boring to me.

Read John Rawls and just become ten times smarter, because that's the best philosophy that's realistic and grounded in reality.

Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor

It’s probably been 35 years since I read that book, and I can still remember being captured by it.

Couldn’t put it down. Only took about 1:45 to read or so. I’m sure there are professors out there who’ve tried to bog it down with metaphor and other deeper meanings, but I’m guessing that Hemingway meant it just to be what it is, and that’s why I love his writing. Sometimes there aren’t deep meanings, allegories and metaphors. Sometimes shit just is.

I know who peterson is, i have read some of his work and heard some of his youtube stuff.

i like him, i like his intelligence, but i disagree with about half of what he is famous for saying

i really enjoyed his second book, so much so, i might read maps of meaning

Old Man and the Sea is my favorite fiction.



"Hemingway said that only the tip of the iceberg showed in fiction—your reader will see only what is above the water—but the knowledge that you have about your character that never makes it into the story acts as the bulk of the iceberg. And that is what gives your story weight and gravitas." — Jenna Blum in The Author at Work, 2013

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

I know who peterson is, i have read some of his work and heard some of his youtube stuff.

i like him, i like his intelligence, but i disagree with about half of what he is famous for saying

i really enjoyed his second book, so much so, i might read maps of meaning

Here's a hot take - fifty years ago he would have struggled to, if he went the route of philosopher, struggled just to get published at all.

Originally Posted by King87

Here's a hot take - fifty years ago he would have struggled to, if he went the route of philosopher, struggled just to get published at all.

well many of his ideas were kinda mainstream and "obvious" to the common man 50 years ago

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

well many of his ideas were kinda mainstream and "obvious" to the common man 50 years ago

I was being subtle in saying that we're ******* stupid these days. This is after I said it bluntly. Why did I do this?

Because that's just what I do.

Break down that philosophy.

But read John Rawls, please.

Also, I need something to read. Fiction. Something to make me feel hopeful.