Originally Posted by FanInAZ
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*The statements above are my opinions, unless they are links, because then they are links, which wouldn't make them my opinions, and I suppose stats aren't necessarily opinion, but they are certainly presented to support an opinion. Proceed accordingly.
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I'm not putting spoiler tags on a nearly 20 (!) year old movie that Gem has finished watching by now...
Plot wasn't the problem, it was the execution of the story through the dialogue. The novelizations of the prequels are fantastic and the overall story of the Emperor rising to power through manipulating the Jedi's hubris is great. Too bad it only really comes together at the end of Attack of the Clones and finishes strong in Revenge of the Sith. I still contend, plot aside, that Maul vs Obi Wan and Qui Gon is the best fight in the whole series still. The prequels also arguably had the best scores, especially Duel of the Fates.
That reminds me, the score in Solo was another high point for me. During the space chase they mixed in three classic themes almost flawlessly.
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I guess I need to revisit the prequels. I didn't like them when they came out, but in all honesty I didn't "really" watch them either.
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Still one of my favorite Star Wars Videos ever:
Whisper in the wind
The fight was phenomenal! The pacing was pretty off and I felt there was a lot of stuff added just to fill in space that could have been left out and not hurt the story. The one thing I don't like about star wars movies is they seem to make it a thing that they have to be over 2 hours long and usually unnecessarily.I'm not putting spoiler tags on a nearly 20 (!) year old movie that Gem has finished watching by now...
Plot wasn't the problem, it was the execution of the story through the dialogue. The novelizations of the prequels are fantastic and the overall story of the Emperor rising to power through manipulating the Jedi's hubris is great. Too bad it only really comes together at the end of Attack of the Clones and finishes strong in Revenge of the Sith. I still contend, plot aside, that Maul vs Obi Wan and Qui Gon is the best fight in the whole series still. The prequels also arguably had the best scores, especially Duel of the Fates.
That reminds me, the score in Solo was another high point for me. During the space chase they mixed in three classic themes almost flawlessly.
I'm usually more into the Darkside more than the rebels, but I thought Qui Gon Jin was fantastic, I thought to me he represented what a Jedi should be. I wish he wouldn't have died. To me, most of the Jedi's come off as pretentious zealots. It's part of the reason I have issues with Rey now, she's just automatically great at anything she does, that's just not believable.
Darth maul. ...another villain that I love.
I don't think it was as bad as I've heard it was, but it definitely could have been better. I held off watching because of all the horrible things I've heard, but it just wasn't THAT bad.
And I seriously wanted Jar Jar weirdo gone after the first minute he was on. I don't think I've ever hated a character more.
Last edited by GEM; 05-28-2018 at 11:48 AM.
Whisper in the wind
Ok, so how with all their all knowing all being, how the hell do none of the Jedi order not see Palpatine being evil at heart? Isn't that a pretty big plot snafu?
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I don't think so. They are mindful of the force, but not omniscient. They aren't infallible, and that fallibility is their ultimate downfall. Their mindfulness of the entire galaxy led to them missing the evil in front of their eyes.
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They missed the biggest evil right in front of them by focusing on everything outside and far reaching . Makes sense. Thanks!
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They were being manipulated from the get go by Palpatine. You touched on it earlier when you said they acted like pretentious zealots. They were all pretty sure they were infallible and the Jedi Council didn't or couldn't believe that the threat of the Sith had returned. They got caught up in the war that Palpatine had control of from both sides and instead of being peace keepers they allowed themselves to be spread thin in a galactic conflict. All the while they were being setup to be destroyed from the inside and ultimately painted as traitors to the Republic. It's all very Shakespearian!
Then you have Anakin being seduced during this whole process by the dark side and instead of the Jedi listening to him they just keep preaching dogmatic bullshit to him. Meanwhile, Palpatine is like the Jedi are lame. You afraid of losing the ones you love? I know some dark sith crap that will keep that from happening. The Jedi turned their back on Anakin while he opened his arms. I loved the whole story arc. People say Anakin turned too quickly but he was being manipulated since the end of the Phantom Menace.
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Anybody else have one of these lightsabers? Highly advise it very fun
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The Master Replica Sabers? Love those I have 3: Anakin/Luke Blue Lightsaber, Luke Green ROTJ Lightsaber, and Mace Windu's Purple Lightsaber.
The guys who make custom sabers are cool as hell, they are called Ultra Sabers: https://ultrasabers.com/
And if you are really geeky and want to fight with them without breaking them, Kyberlight is the way to go: https://kyberlight.com
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Love the little details I didn't know before, like Anikan built c3po. Friggen cool!
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I have the blue Luke original, which i like because of the span of the sabers history. I replaced the speaker in the hilt with a better one (speaker off old cordless phone handset) and it sounds awesome.The Master Replica Sabers? Love those I have 3: Anakin/Luke Blue Lightsaber, Luke Green ROTJ Lightsaber, and Mace Windu's Purple Lightsaber.
The guys who make custom sabers are cool as hell, they are called Ultra Sabers: https://ultrasabers.com/
And if you are really geeky and want to fight with them without breaking them, Kyberlight is the way to go: https://kyberlight.com
Id love a duel-ready one. But dir now I'll settle with a sword lol
"I may not be a mathematician, but I can count to a million." - Shannon Sharpe
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Some dark force users can hide themselves or their presence from the light side.
you sound more like an old star wars fan everyday! Jedis took decades to learn even the simple uses of the force. Which is why most of us have a problem with what Disney did to Rey.
Retiree
Luke learned quickly. There is some precedent.
Also, I saw the new SW movie - not better than the original three, but it’s in the same ball park
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