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Thread: Star Wars: Episode VII - IX & Spinoffs Disscussion *SPOILERS INSIDE*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    It's typical fanboy whining...The people that hate it, hated TFA awakens too. This time they are pissed because it "distances itself from being like the others, to avoid being called too similar to previous films like TFA was"

    Or I've heard other star wars purists whine that it was too kiddy and childish. Lots of silly nitpicking and whining over stuff.
    Or...you know...it's shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Or...you know...it's shit.
    Well I hear people drone on and on about how TFA was shit too and I enjoyed it a lot so... Some people can't enjoy a movie if it doesn't fit their expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    Well I hear people drone on and on about how TFA was shit too and I enjoyed it a lot so... Some people can't enjoy a movie if it doesn't fit their expectations.
    Nah, it's just that people have different tastes. You can ask 10 Star Wars fans to rank the films and get ten different answers. And even those change over time. I used to rank Empire low when I was a kid because it was the most "boring" and now it's my favorite. The only thing I can't stand about Star Wars fandom is how they won't shut the **** up about what they don't like. They still talk about Ewoks and The Prequels like those things killed their mothers or something. I find it easy to take what I like and ignore what I don't like about the saga, I think every one of the movies adds something of value.

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    So....alright. I didn't hate it. But, it was a mess. The pacing was terrible in the first half of the movie. Too many story lines with too little time spent developing each story line. You couldn't be overly interested in anything because it was there one moment, gone the next. The movie didn't hit its stride until the strands of narrative condensed into 2-3 strands and more focus was spent on each individual story.

     
    Finn and Rose was RETARDED....Why??? That story line served ZERO point and took away from the first half of the movie.
    I liked Luke's story in the movie, I loved the final shot of him. It was a total callback to the original trilogy with the dual suns in front of him on the hill. I don't like that they killed him, but I understand it and I think he'll play a big role in the next film despite his death. I didn't like the way Leia was saved...that was idiotic. Flying space Leia to the rescue. It would have been far more fitting of an end for her character for her to have sacrificed herself instead of Laura Dern's character.


    Bottom line, it wasn't terrible. I would put it behind TFA and ahead of the prequels though. It could have been so much more with better pacing at the beginning of the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneFalco View Post
    going to see tomorrow. i expect to be fully let down by Social Justice Wars.
    Well with that attitude ya...

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    They could have changed the timing and had Leia and Luke pass away essentially at the same time, that would have been kind of cool. I think the Leia thing was my least favorite part. They butchered that
    Let's Rid3!!!!

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    The more I stew on this one the less I like it. Maybe my second least favorite behind episode 1.
    Let's Rid3!!!!

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    ******* loved it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEM View Post
    ******* loved it!
    I'm not sure how I feel about it. I didn't hate it. The last half of the movie was amazing and I loved it. But the first half of the movie...oh my god it was painful. The first half of the movie really poisoned my view of the movie as a whole. I think I like it, but I dunno, I may need to see it 2-3 more times.

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    I didn't see the prequels and I saw the original 3 when I was little, so I don't compare it to other movies. There were some bad spots to it, but overall i loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEM View Post
    I didn't see the prequels and I saw the original 3 when I was little, so I don't compare it to other movies. There were some bad spots to it, but overall i loved it.
    For me, it was just pacing. Cut out one story line and divide time spent on it between the other stories and it would be fine. But the beginning of the movie just kept cutting from one scene to the next WAY to quickly. It was disjointed.

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    Did you all dress in your Star Wars garb to go watch the movie?

    We're going on the 23rd or 24th.

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    Oh and by the way.

     
    Kylo Ren is currently suspended as supreme leader of the first order after reports that he sent unsolicited shirtless force connections to a female fellow force user. The investigation is ongoing.

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    So I got to see it yesterday and I’m kinda torn. I thought it was much better than Force Awakens. It definitely went in a direction that I didn’t expect (I’d been shielding myself from spoilers and reviews so I wouldn’t have any pre-conceived opinions).

     

    The whole Leia surviving being blown into space was dumb to begin with. I wholeheartedly agree with Shake’s take on Laura Dern’s character Admiral whatever. Should’ve been Leia and it would’ve been the perfect way to pay tribute while removing her from the series now that she’s dead. It could’ve also opened the door to have Laura Dern’s character become the new leader of the resistance for the last movie. Who’s it gonna be, Poe? I think that’s a mistake. Poe is better off as a pilot/wing commander type.

    Like others have said, the Finn/Rose sidestory mission was pretty worthless especially when it did absolutely nothing and was a complete failure. If all they wanted was a side love story, they could’ve just made out in the escape pod. I also don’t know why they used an actor like Benicio Del Toro for that shit role of slicer/codebreaker. What a waste of money and talent. Any schlub off the street could’ve filled that role. When I saw he was gonna be in the movie I thought he’d be someone important. Disappointed in that.

    I also really wanted Ren to kill Hux. Got stoked when he started choking him. Hux is such a little bitch shit character. Ginger whiny girl who cries more than even Kylo. He’s the worst “Imperial Officer” to date. It’s embarassing that he’s the military leader. I miss guys like Veers and Piett. I also like that Rey’s backstory was summed up easily. That her parents were nobodies and she wasn’t another Luke Skywalker and that she wasn’t some kind of prodigy “chosen one” as it was rumored.

    One last thing, Shane is dumb. Rogue One was pimp AF and the best flick since the original trilogy.


    It left a lot of directions open for the next movie to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HORSEPOWER 56 View Post
    So I got to see it yesterday and I’m kinda torn. I thought it was much better than Force Awakens. It definitely went in a direction that I didn’t expect (I’d been shielding myself from spoilers and reviews so I wouldn’t have any pre-conceived opinions).

     

    The whole Leia surviving being blown into space was dumb to begin with. I wholeheartedly agree with Shake’s take on Laura Dern’s character Admiral whatever. Should’ve been Leia and it would’ve been the perfect way to pay tribute while removing her from the series now that she’s dead. It could’ve also opened the door to have Laura Dern’s character become the new leader of the resistance for the last movie. Who’s it gonna be, Poe? I think that’s a mistake. Poe is better off as a pilot/wing commander type.

    Like others have said, the Finn/Rose sidestory mission was pretty worthless especially when it did absolutely nothing and was a complete failure. If all they wanted was a side love story, they could’ve just made out in the escape pod. I also don’t know why they used an actor like Benicio Del Toro for that shit role of slicer/codebreaker. What a waste of money and talent. Any schlub off the street could’ve filled that role. When I saw he was gonna be in the movie I thought he’d be someone important. Disappointed in that.

    I also really wanted Ren to kill Hux. Got stoked when he started choking him. Hux is such a little bitch shit character. Ginger whiny girl who cries more than even Kylo. He’s the worst “Imperial Officer” to date. It’s embarassing that he’s the military leader. I miss guys like Veers and Piett. I also like that Rey’s backstory was summed up easily. That her parents were nobodies and she wasn’t another Luke Skywalker and that she wasn’t some kind of prodigy “chosen one” as it was rumored.

    One last thing, Shane is dumb. Rogue One was pimp AF and the best flick since the original trilogy.


    It left a lot of directions open for the next movie to go.
    Just a note moving forward I am not using spoiler tags. The movie has been out all weekend and big fans have either seen it or know better than to come in here. The damn title has Spoilers tagged in the title. Save the spoiler tags for if you post in the general movie review forum or elsewhere.

    This seems to be the general consensus from long time fans of the series (i.e. old dudes like us) that the first viewing is very confusing and hard to judge. Part of it for me is that I went in spoiler free and I did kind of have in my head how I thought it should go and that was challenged at every turn.

    The only thing I knew after watching it the first time that I liked some stuff and I really hated some stuff. A subsequent viewing made me realize the cool stuff was REALLY cool and it was easy to ignore the crap like the casino planet and super Leia. I still think the movie is too long. Getting rid of the Canto Bight sequence would have done wonders. Basically all it did was preach that war is bad and give them a chance to meet the kids who would be inspired by the rebellion after they visited.

    Speaking of... soooo it's not the Resistance anymore? When the hell did they start using the Rebel logo and calling themselves Rebels?

    Anyway (and I AM NOT comparing the two movies in quality) this film reminds me of what it must have been like to see The Empire Strikes Back for the first time. I remember it vaguely as a child and thinking it was no fun, too dark, and I hated the slow parts on Dagobah. Depending on how they finish things out, The Last Jedi might retroactively become a classic. As it stands it is better than The Force Awakens but has some serious issues that keep it from standing on it's own. I love the opening sequence with the bombers and pretty much everything from the Snoke throne room battle on.

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