Thread: Information on some replacement refs

Earlier today, Drew Goodman and Scott Hastings were talking about this:

from article:

Mike Pereira: three NFL replacement refs were fired from Pac-12

Per his interview with the Mercury News, Pereira said three Pac-12 officials let go for poor performance have found their way into the NFL as replacement officials.

full article - http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...d-from-pac-12/

AND

Replacement refs working in NFL were FIRED from Lingerie Football League, LFL commish says; 'The NFL has been exposed' by shoddy scab refs

A handful of the scab refs who have marred the NFL season with a series of blown calls are washouts from the Lingerie Football League, the underwear league said.

The bra-and-panty league said at least one crew of refs now working NFL games couldn't hack it on their all-girl gridiron and were fired.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1167796

Well guys and gals, I certainly feel much better knowing that the NFL did their homework when they locked out the referees. I am so glad that the NFL wanted to uphold the integrity of the NFL, and show nothing but respect to the coaches, players, and fans, when making the decisions they made.

Yep - lets keep blaming the messenger. KILL THE MESSENGER!!!!!

Fired from the lingerie league....

Bhwhahahahahahahaha oh man, no wonder they suck so bad.

Lmao!!!! Omg!

Wow... if true, that's embarrassing.... Come on owners!! Make a move or you're screwed!

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Yep - lets keep blaming the messenger. KILL THE MESSENGER!!!!!

This is not blaming the messenger - the finger points directly at the powers to be in the NFL = owners.

The owners won't budge with the officials. They have no interest in providing pensions for part-time employees in this economy, so a $9 billion plus industry has become a laughingstock over the difference in roughly $3.5 million dollars.

That's $120,000 per team. Or roughly the signing bonus of a late-round draft pick who often fails to make the final cut.

full article - http://www.denverpost.com/renck/ci_2...ials-joke-isnt

Negotiators for the NFL and the NFL Referees Association met until 2 a.m. ET Wednesday in an attempt to iron out their differences in a months-long lockout but did not reach a deal, a source said.

League owners are not willing to compromise further and differences remain on several issues, including pensions for the officials and the process by which the NFL evaluates referees, the source said.

The officials work about 36 hours a week -- nearly full-time -- and pension benefits have become an important issue to them. It would probably cost each team about $100,000 to settle the pension issue.

rest - with video - Chris Mortensen, Herm Edwards
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...al-source-says

It appears one issue was resolved.

The NFL and NFL Referees Association negotiated through Tuesday from 8:30 a.m. until 2 a.m. Wednesday, according to sources briefed on both sides' positions, and at least one breakthrough resulted.

The league and referees have agreed to create a developmental program as a compromise to the NFL's demand for the addition of 21 officials to the current contingent of 121 NFLRA members, per an NFLRA source. The pool of money for the existing officials also will remain the same.

During Tuesday's talks, the owners who have shown no inclination to budge on the referees' benefits issues became involved on a more detailed level in the negotiations, per an NFL source. The federal mediator is said to have kept things on track.

rest - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...headline_stack

Why can't the ref's go with a traditional 401k and end this madness? Pensions have largely gone the way of horse and buggy.

$9 billion industry aside, there are expenses. It's not like they're pocketing the entire $9 billion, and frankly I'm tired of the attitude lately that berates and shuns success.

I can only hope I'm thought of as a butthole someday.

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Why can't the ref's go with a traditional 401k and end this madness? Pensions have largely gone the way of horse and buggy.

$9 billion industry aside, there are expenses. It's not like they're pocketing the entire $9 billion, and frankly I'm tired of the attitude lately that berates and shuns success.

I can only hope I'm thought of as a butthole someday.

We lost our defined benefit plan in the last year (in a thriving business, too). It's just not reasonable for part-time employees to ask for it (and maybe not even for full-time employees).

Originally Posted by BroncoJoe

Why can't the ref's go with a traditional 401k and end this madness? Pensions have largely gone the way of horse and buggy.

$9 billion industry aside, there are expenses. It's not like they're pocketing the entire $9 billion, and frankly I'm tired of the attitude lately that berates and shuns success.

I can only hope I'm thought of as a butthole someday.

The referee pensions have been there since 1970. Possibly many companies are offering 401ks now, rather than pensions - but how many of these companies have converted pensions from their employees who have been there forever into 401ks.? The referees have stated, in regards to the pension, is for it to be retained for the "now" referees, and any new referees would be under a 401k.

Originally Posted by Denver Native (Carol)

The referee pensions have been there since 1970. Possibly many companies are offering 401ks now, rather than pensions - but how many of these companies have converted pensions from their employees who have been there forever into 401ks.? The referees have stated, in regards to the pension, is for it to be retained for the "now" referees, and any new referees would be under a 401k.

Nearly all companies have done this. There are very few pension plans like this left....almost none.

The owners are not going to budge on the pensions. I'm still confused as to why the refs feel they should be GETTING pensions??

I'm just sick of all the anger toward the owners and ZERO toward the refs. They've got a sweet gig and I HIGHLY question the 36 hour/week figure stated above.

Even if they do work that many hours, let's spread their total hours over a 52 week year and see what we come up with. F'ing ridiculous.

/endrant

It wasn't this ref was it? If so, all is forgiven.