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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    ainge is obviously a good GM. . . he also got wildly, unbelievably lucky when brooklyn agreed to the worst desperation trade ever made. . . he also has the full weight of an east coast market and a storied program behind him-- i think other guys could also have succeeded given the assets that he had to work with. . . hiring brad stevens was a masterstroke, though, you have to give him credit for that. . .
    Players don't care about the Celtics mythos anymore. Boston is viewed as a shitty and whiter New York with a bunch of banners stemming from bygone eras.

    Ainge played the draft perfect with regards to his young superstars (which he could do via Brooklyn trade) and held onto his assets for a long time, when people killed him for it. He built one roster that was title worthy and this one seems to be pretty damn close. Is he a great GM? He's probably in the arena. I do think the mentality of not being scared (which most GMs are) is correct. He's not scared to make a mistake or make bold moves, even though bold isn't always good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Players don't care about the Celtics mythos anymore. Boston is viewed as a shitty and whiter New York with a bunch of banners stemming from bygone eras.

    Ainge played the draft perfect with regards to his young superstars (which he could do via Brooklyn trade) and held onto his assets for a long time, when people killed him for it. He built one roster that was title worthy and this one seems to be pretty damn close. Is he a great GM? He's probably in the arena. I do think the mentality of not being scared (which most GMs are) is correct. He's not scared to make a mistake or make bold moves, even though bold isn't always good.
    I call bull on that first paragraph.
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    When was the last free agent signing that was huge? Heyward doesn’t count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    When was the last free agent signing that was huge? Heyward doesn’t count.
    Heyward does count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    When was the last free agent signing that was huge? Heyward doesn’t count.
    Hayward absolutely 100 percent counts. He's a max free agent signing somewhere you said no one would sign. Also Al Horford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOtorboat View Post
    Hayward absolutely 100 percent counts. He's a max free agent signing somewhere you said no one would sign. Also Al Horford.
    Those are not franchise players. A max deal doesn’t mean great - I’m talking great players. Durant’s and LBJ’s don’t go to Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Those are not franchise players. A max deal doesnít mean great - Iím talking great players. Durantís and LBJís donít go to Boston.
    Just stop. He was the most coveted free agent on the market last year. A max deal makes him a franchise player by definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff View Post
    Just stop. He was the most coveted free agent on the market last year. A max deal makes him a franchise player by definition.
    Does that mean he’s great, intrinsically? No. Was Hassan Whiteside, who got a max deal great? No. Anyone really want to argue that he’s a top ten player? Everyone should know that bad deals get made, and sometimes you over pay for a guy. Hayward wouldn’t even be a top three player in this class. Top shelf talent doesn’t go in free agency to Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Does that mean he’s great, intrinsically? No. Was Hassan Whiteside, who got a max deal great? No. Anyone really want to argue that he’s a top ten player? Everyone should know that bad deals get made, and sometimes you over pay for a guy. Hayward wouldn’t even be a top three player in this class. Top shelf talent doesn’t go in free agency to Boston.
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    I’m soery that you guys think a max deal means elite. Hassan and Whiteside are monsters and definitely on par with top five players. Oh, they’re not? So a contract doesn’t dictate intrinsic value or worth? I definitely remember when LBJ, Durant, CP3, Leonard etc where clamoring for Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    Those are not franchise players. A max deal doesn’t mean great - I’m talking great players. Durant’s and LBJ’s don’t go to Boston.
    how about kevin garnett?

    would he count as a franchise player?

    there's extensive documentation that they would never have traded for him if he wouldn't have agreed to an extension in advance, which isn't significantly different than signing there as a free agent. . . have fun arguing the technicality, though. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogfish View Post
    how about kevin garnett?

    would he count as a franchise player?

    there's extensive documentation that they would never have traded for him if he wouldn't have agreed to an extension in advance, which isn't significantly different than signing there as a free agent. . . have fun arguing the technicality, though. . .
    When did Garnett come in again? About a decade ago my man? The irony is that you're arguing a technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King87 View Post
    When did Garnett come in again? About a decade ago my man?
    yea, they've REALLY fallen off since then. . . oh, pity the poor, downtrodden celtics. . . shabby, threadbare franchise that they are, they can only attract the heywards and horfords of the world. . . they never signed LBJ, not even once! see how the mighty have fallen! nevermind that they probably weren't close to having the cap space to get him-- the main story is that he scorned them! as a nuggets fan, i can assure you that i pity them for only being able to land the best free agents most years, as opposed to the best free agent in the history of the sport. . .



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