Thread: John Elway Talks: Manning, Tebow and the Insane Tebow Conspiracy Theories!

I thought this interview with Jason Cole about how Elway lured Manning to Denver is fascinating, particularly when he talks about the Tebow conspiracy theories:

John Elway Q&A: How the Hall of Fame QB lured Peyton Manning to the Broncos

Cole comes right out and asks him about the insane "Elway's jealous of Tebow" conspiracy theories:

Jason Cole: Last season, there were some people who said that you didn't want Tim Tebow to succeed because you didn't want someone to eclipse you as a great player in Denver sports lore. Now, you go get Peyton Manning, someone who is certainly on your level. So it seems you're not afraid of that.

John Elway: I don't know how you win at this level without one of those guys. Now, there are exceptions, but that's the general rule and Peyton gives us that opportunity to compete for a world championship. You have to have a guy with that capability.

Cole: But when people were saying that …

Elway: It's ridiculous. Why would I come back [to be Broncos VP] and not want that guy? Why would I not want a great quarterback when I know that's what you need to win a championship? That's why it's ridiculous. But there's so much more out there in terms of social media. So the fans launch into that and all of a sudden it's being picked up and written. It's infuriating, but that's why I really learned to worry about what I can control and not worry about the stuff I can't.

This is what I've been saying since the end of last season. Elway was "furious" with the insane Tebow fans and that very obviously played a role in getting Tebow out of town.

Here's the scenario: He comes back to try and win another championship. Dude has well over $100 million. He doesn't need the aggravation of working if he isn't in it for the Lombardi Trophy. He doesn't think Tebow is the QB to do that. 31 other teams agree since NOBODY wants Tebow as their starting QB and most don't want the Tebow circus in their town at any price.

But, the imbecilic Teboners argue that "Elway is just jealous of Tebow eclipsing his popularity in Denver." You can imagine how irritating and difficult it is for Elway to deal with that kind of irrational fan reaction. He has to worry during every single statement whether somehow he's going to "give offense" to Tebow's lunatic, thin-skinned fans who will feel that he's somehow "slighting" Tebow.

Who needs the aggravation? This is why I suspect that even if Manning had chosen to go elsewhere the Broncos would still have dealt Tebow and let the idiot fan-boys rage.

He just didn't believe Tebow was the answer, and for Elway it's all about winning the SB. Period. If he has to ruffle some fan feathers, tough.

Getting Manning was just icing on the cake, since it made it impossible for anybody but the most deluded Teboners to criticize Broncos management.

See what I mean Rav? It's the Tebow haters who can't let him go. In an article that is 95% about things other than Tebow Cug decides to focus an entire rant on that one part.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

See what I mean Rav? It's the Tebow haters who can't let him go. In an article that is 95% about things other than Tebow Cug decides to focus an entire rant on that one part.

Yup. That's how it reads to me too. It might be entirely possible that a) Elway really wanted Manning in Denver because he gave them a better chance to win now and b) Tebow is irrelevant to whether to go after Manning. But somehow Elway is instead motivated by Tebow fanboys to get the circus off his back.

I prefer to believe Elway thought Manning was worth the gamble whether Tebow, Orton or Cutler was the current QB.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

See what I mean Rav? It's the Tebow haters who can't let him go. In an article that is 95% about things other than Tebow Cug decides to focus an entire rant on that one part.

Maybe Cug has heard the same things I have in regards to Tebow being traded. My youngest sister now can not STAND Elway - i.e. Elway lied when he said he would be working with Tebow, etc., etc., etc. Also, a friend of mine at Church now feels the same way about Elway.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

Yup. That's how it reads to me too. It might be entirely possible that a) Elway really wanted Manning in Denver because he gave them a better chance to win now and b) Tebow is irrelevant to whether to go after Manning. But somehow Elway is instead motivated by Tebow fanboys to get the circus off his back.

I prefer to believe Elway thought Manning was worth the gamble whether Tebow, Orton or Cutler was the current QB.

There's absolutely no doubt of that. And there's no doubt that it was worth the gamble. How many times does a sure-fire, first ballot Hall of Fame QB come onto the FA market with perhaps 3 to 5 good years left?

Not too often.

My point though remains.

Yes, most of the story is about how Elway lured Manning to Denver. But, if you've been paying attention, you've read that story before. He's said over and over that the key was allowing Manning to feel comfortable with the process, not trying to pressure him into an early decision, yada, yada.

If you haven't read that before, then yes this is newsworthy, and it's interesting in any case.

What HAS NOT BEEN SAID BEFORE, and what is therefore worth posting is Elway's describing his reaction to the whole Tebow fan-boy conspiracy rumors that were swirling around all last season.

We now know exactly how Elway reacted to them. Not only was he very aware of them they were "infuriating" and "hard to deal with." The fans were questioning his integrity in the most ludicrous fashion.

So, pardon me for picking the one item of real new news from the rest and emphasizing that. Because I don't believe Elway has publicly said anything before about how the crazy rumors of last season affected him personally and what he thought about it all.

How is this thread different than the one that blamed Decker for dropping passes in order to make Tebow look better? Lmao, it goes both ways on this board.

Originally Posted by Northman

How is this thread different than the one that blamed Decker for dropping passes in order to make Tebow look better? Lmao, it goes both ways on this board.

Well for one that thread never mentioned it until Rav or you brought it up.

It was an article stating he dropped a pass, just like he dropped passes last season. That was it .

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

Well for one that thread never mentioned it until Rav or you brought it up.

It was an article stating he dropped a pass, just like he dropped passes last season. That was it .

The **** it didnt. Sorry, your full of shit. You must of not read the entire thing.

Originally Posted by Northman

The **** it didnt. Sorry, your full of shit.

sure ok, learn to read and it will get you far



...Well, its just one drop, but there's not going to be any more excuses for dropped passes...Manning won't accept that...


This is what was type by the OP including the link and part of an article.

The WR corps has a lot to prove IMO now that there is no longer a scape goat for them....Put up or shut up.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

sure ok

From the original topic.

On the other hand, some of the fans I sat with also frequently remarked during practice how Tebow couldn't make the throws that Manning was completing. Tebow's accuracy and mechanical issues throwing were hot topics of conversation. Perhaps the most enlightening moment for the our group was when a Broncos employee (clearly wearing Broncos gear and standing next to the field) turned to us at one point after wide receiver Eric Decker dropped a perfect pass from Manning and said "you can't blame any of that on the quarterback anymore."

Can you say OWNED? I can.

Originally Posted by Northman

From the original topic.



Can you say OWNED? I can.

Um, not owned. OP stated Manning wont accept drops. Um read a little there buddy instead of making assumptions.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

Um, not owned. OP stated Manning wont accept drops. Um read a little there buddy instead of making assumptions.

I highlighted it in red. He was clearly talking about Tebow. Sorry, you fail again.

Originally Posted by Northman

I highlighted it in red. He was clearly talking about Tebow. Sorry, you fail again.

haha sure. You and several others see what you want. I forgot BTB stated it perfectly in different thread.

You see the mention of a QB and have to mention Tebow. No matter the thread. It is quite ridiculous and getting annoying. Cant mention a WR or anything with you guys mention well Tebows gone its fixed. For **** sake leave Tebow out of it.

Originally Posted by Northman

I highlighted it in red. He was clearly talking about Tebow. Sorry, you fail again.

BTW you highlighted the article not what the OP stated. OP stated Manning wont accept dropped passes. He said Manning so that means he automatically means Tebow. I forgot you can not mention Manning with it meaning Tebow.

And it was RAV who mentioned Tebow first when it was a Decker/Manning thread.

Originally Posted by NightTerror218

haha sure. You and several others see what you want. I forgot BTB stated it perfectly in different thread.

You see the mention of a QB and have to mention Tebow. No matter the thread. It is quite ridiculous and getting annoying. Cant mention a WR or anything with you guys mention well Tebows gone its fixed. For **** sake leave Tebow out of it.

Really.

Oh, and for the record it was a Tebow fan in post #9 that brought him up first outside of the guy in the article.

How dare you try and paint any Bronco the past couple years not named Tim Tebow in a bad light.

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