Thread: Last year's defense was better than what met the eye . . .

Got this off the It's All Over, Fat Man! blog this morning:

* Denver first allowed 40+ last year to the Packers, who hung 40+ on
five other teams, including the Lions and Saints. There is no shame in
getting torched by the Packers, and there was a defensive score
among Green Bay's seven TDs.

* Those Lions put up 45 at SAF@MH, and it was a thrashing for sure.
But they also forced three turnovers, two of which went the other
way for touchdowns. Detroit also posted 34+ points against six other
teams, including Green Bay, San Diego, and Dallas.

* The two losses to New England included no Patriots defensive scores,
but the Broncos did cough up five turnovers in the two games. And,
the Patriots averaged 32.1 points per game and scored fewer than 27
points in just three regular season games. Like with Green Bay, giving
up a lot of points to New England last year was nothing to be
embarrassed about.

* The 40 points scored by Buffalo included a punt return TD, two
defensive scores, and just one offensive touchdown.

Rest - http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...y-lard-6-22-12

So the only time the defense really struggled was when they were
spread out by superior receivers and an elite QB. Those were the holes
that needed filled. With the additions of Porter, Florence, Adams, and
Bolden, this has me pretty excited about this season . . .
.

Would've been better if we didn't have that old man of a decoy in Champ Bailey out there.

Yea.....but the defense should of held those great QB's to 10 points or under and give Teblow a real chance.

Never okay to give up huge numbers, im pretty sure the guy on defense would say the same.

Maybe its just me, but I dont see how it can be justified in anyway. Getting torched is getting torched however you want to coat it or who else got torched.

You'll be surprised what a good offense will do for your defense. The other team has to try and keep up, or feel they have to put points on the board because they KNOW you will. Putting the other QB and other offense in positions that are much easier to defend. I'm very excited to know that our offense isn't going to kill our team any longer.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

You'll be surprised what a good offense will do for your defense. The other team has to try and keep up, or feel they have to put points on the board because they KNOW you will. Putting the other QB and other offense in positions that are much easier to defend. I'm very excited to know that our offense isn't going to kill our team any longer.

Thats why teams like the 2000 Ravens are so very rare.

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

You'll be surprised what a good offense will do for your defense. The other team has to try and keep up, or feel they have to put points on the board because they KNOW you will. Putting the other QB and other offense in positions that are much easier to defend. I'm very excited to know that our offense isn't going to kill our team any longer.

Disagree vehemently... Generally those "much easier to defend" (teams playing keep-up with high powered offenses) positions score significantly more points.

Significantly.

Originally Posted by Northman

Thats why teams like the 2000 Ravens are so very rare.

Getting the opponent to play small ball with you is dramatically easier than consistently stopping a team throwing it 50+ per game.

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Disagree vehemently... Generally those "much easier to defend" (teams playing keep-up with high powered offenses) positions score significantly more points.

Significantly.

Vehemently? Well, when you put it that way maybe the Broncos should try to score as little as possible.......

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Disagree vehemently... Generally those "much easier to defend" (teams playing keep-up with high powered offenses) positions score significantly more points.

Significantly.

Which is why we've added players to our secondary and pass rush, to defend those offenses.

Also, I'm happy this article was written. People who blame our defense on the 5 40+ point games are either morons or didn't watch the games. The only one I would say they were more responsible for than the offense was the GB game.

Detroit and Buffalo each got multiple D/ST touchdowns, meaning our D gave much much less than 40 points themselves. In the first Pats game our D was playing pretty well until the offense turned it over 3 times in a row giving them pretty easy scores.

As for the playoff game our D was bad but when your offense can't stay on the field against a team like the Pats, not much any team can do.

where did you come up with the concept of "blaiming the defense" for the huge thumpings?

Strictly speaking, there is no exscuse for getting handled like that. they have 1 job, and thats play defense, and they failed in those instances. No excuses should be given, and no crutch by a "look at who else got killed".

Originally Posted by Ravage!!!

You'll be surprised what a good offense will do for your defense. The other team has to try and keep up, or feel they have to put points on the board because they KNOW you will. Putting the other QB and other offense in positions that are much easier to defend. I'm very excited to know that our offense isn't going to kill our team any longer.

Heck, just having an offense that converts some 3rd downs will make the defense better cuz of the rest and improved field possession. Our 3rd down offense last season was abysmal.

Originally Posted by Krugan

where did you come up with the concept of "blaiming the defense" for the huge thumpings?

Strictly speaking, there is no exscuse for getting handled like that. they have 1 job, and thats play defense, and they failed in those instances. No excuses should be given, and no crutch by a "look at who else got killed".

You're missing the point. The defense can't do anything about a punt return TD or a pic-six, but those points still count in the 40+.

The point wasnt missed...

funny, i do understand how points are scored.

My argument is with the crutching, ohhh look at who else get blasted by the teams that blasted us, it doesnt change the blasting and the fact that the games where out of hand. Arguing that the offense blew isnt even needed, it was a given. The defense also did little in those games, we get lit up, and that was clear to my eye.

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Disagree vehemently... Generally those "much easier to defend" (teams playing keep-up with high powered offenses) positions score significantly more points.

Significantly.

a team that is able to score puts the other team in a position to pass, inorder to keep up. Getting up early and forcing the other team to pass, plays directly into our defensive strengths. A team that continues to go three-and-out is NOT helping your defense in the least.