Thread: Marshall could be docked $35,000

As far as only having one legitimate WR goes, I don't think that it matters much.

If you double up a guy, he can still do things on the field. Guys like Steve Smith, Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, etc etc etc etc, have done great things while eating a lot of double coverage.

Eddie Royal is a legitimate WR. He reminds me of Wes Welker in the sense that his skill set may "limit" him to a select type of offenses. That being said, when he is in that type of offense you better watch out.

WR is an overrated position. Yeah, the truly elite guys make a huge impact. But, to me they are a position that grows on trees. It's amazing how often the "top spots" for wideouts fluctuate.

No one ever had Fitzgerald as the best WR in the NFL until the playoffs. Hell, most people didn't have Fitzgerald in the top five. Hell, Chad Johnson had a single bad year and people say that he's done. A few years ago it looked like Randy Moss was done. People thought he lost a step. Brandon Marshall appeared out of nowhere. Braylon Edwards sucked, had a great year, and now he sucks again.

My point (or ramble) is that WRs are insane, they come and go, and while they can do some damn great things they are replaced easily. Look at Pittsburgh for instance. Plaxico Burress looked like he was going to be a great player in Pittsburgh, then they didn't resign him.

Hines Ward kept it going, and then servicable but pretty average guys like Anwan Randle El, Cedric Wilson, Nate Washington did their part. Then they went out and found a guy who looks like he is going to kill it this year in Santonio Holmes.

Offensive lineman are hard to replace. Cornerbacks and quarterbacks and defensive lineman are hard to replace. Wide Recievers? Meh.

Signing him long term would not be a bad thing.

But breaking the bank for any WR is always risky. Especially for a guy with his history.

That is why I loathe players like Marshall so much. I mean their play dictates that they may be the exception to the rule, but then they basically can hold a team halfway hostage.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

I know I should know better by now, but I still just dont get it. Cutler and Marshall. All they've done is show promise, while at the same time show mistakes and immaturity and yet they feel they can demand anything they want. Marshall will most likely not get the same amount of catches in this offense and maybe he knows that and is looking for the extension now before that happens. What the hell is wrong with our youth that money becomes the priority?

I remember playing baseball in college and always saying that I would take a lesser contract from the orioles if they wanted me. For me it was about playing the game and just being an added bonus if I could play for my favorite team.

These guys say they play for the team and the team goals, but the second they over-value themselves...and they seem to always do...it's all about the money. "I want to take care of my family". Screw that. I have 4 kids and I take care of my family just fine and I make nowhere near what they make. It just gets old and personally, I could care less if he gets shipped out too.

Of course you'd say you'd take less.....

AT FIRST!

But that 2nd/3rd contract is when EVERY player wants to hit it big.

Originally Posted by lex

It most certainly is true. The guy is great in those situations. But one of the reasons our offense was bogged down inside the 20 (more specifically the 10), is that with so many RBs going down, the run was less of a threat and that only made throwing that much more congested. When we had Pittman as a short yardage specialist, we were able to score TDs whether by running or passing. Same was true when we had Hillis. But after he went down, there was really no one for that kind of situation, which, like I said, made it toughter to throw because of congestion. If you can roll coverage to one receiver the way defenses could against Marshall last year (again the lack of a running game), then any WR is going to have a challenge scoring.

Not only that, but Marshall played with a bad hip last year and also that lingering arm injury...and still produced.

Surely you can find some more excuses....

Marsh is great between the 20's, just like cut-n-run'er was. But when it came to getting into the endzone, they both lacked that 'finishing touch'. Not to mention both of their tendencies for the TO.

Originally Posted by Cicero

Exactly, but why bother stating that to people who could give a shit less and just think it is fun to piss on players by attempts at being witty with nicknames like "Morons Anonymous" and "Mar$$$$hall!" -- It is just easier to do that!

Yeah, because you'd NEVER do that, now would you......

Originally Posted by King87

As far as only having one legitimate WR goes, I don't think that it matters much.

No one ever had Fitzgerald as the best WR in the NFL until the playoffs. Hell, most people didn't have Fitzgerald in the top five. .

Huh?

Fitz has been considered a top WR since he arrived!

Originally Posted by rcsodak

Yeah, because you'd NEVER do that, now would you......

Except when I'm doing it, I'm only kidding. (Diabetes Boy) Almost as good as Cut'n'Runner, I mean -- that's epic. You managed to take a recent political nametag and place it on our old quarterback. Quality stuff.

Originally Posted by King87

As far as only having one legitimate WR goes, I don't think that it matters much.

If you double up a guy, he can still do things on the field. Guys like Steve Smith, Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, etc etc etc etc, have done great things while eating a lot of double coverage.

Eddie Royal is a legitimate WR. He reminds me of Wes Welker in the sense that his skill set may "limit" him to a select type of offenses. That being said, when he is in that type of offense you better watch out.

WR is an overrated position. Yeah, the truly elite guys make a huge impact. But, to me they are a position that grows on trees. It's amazing how often the "top spots" for wideouts fluctuate.

No one ever had Fitzgerald as the best WR in the NFL until the playoffs. Hell, most people didn't have Fitzgerald in the top five. Hell, Chad Johnson had a single bad year and people say that he's done. A few years ago it looked like Randy Moss was done. People thought he lost a step. Brandon Marshall appeared out of nowhere. Braylon Edwards sucked, had a great year, and now he sucks again.

My point (or ramble) is that WRs are insane, they come and go, and while they can do some damn great things they are replaced easily. Look at Pittsburgh for instance. Plaxico Burress looked like he was going to be a great player in Pittsburgh, then they didn't resign him.

Hines Ward kept it going, and then servicable but pretty average guys like Anwan Randle El, Cedric Wilson, Nate Washington did their part. Then they went out and found a guy who looks like he is going to kill it this year in Santonio Holmes.

Offensive lineman are hard to replace. Cornerbacks and quarterbacks and defensive lineman are hard to replace. Wide Recievers? Meh.

Signing him long term would not be a bad thing.

But breaking the bank for any WR is always risky. Especially for a guy with his history.

That is why I loathe players like Marshall so much. I mean their play dictates that they may be the exception to the rule, but then they basically can hold a team halfway hostage.

Sorry man I gotta call you out on that. Almost everyone has had Fitzgerald in the top 5 for years. Anyone who pays close attention to football at least. And there were definitely a handful of people who thought he was the best in the league, including me.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

Sorry man I gotta call you out on that. Almost everyone has had Fitzgerald in the top 5 for years. Anyone who pays close attention to football at least. And there were definitely a handful of people who thought he was the best in the league, including me.

For a very long time most people's top five was TO, Harrison, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, and then a whole long slew of other players in that mix slot ranging from Hines Ward, Andre Johnson, Torry Holt, and yeah even Fitz.

The thing is, most of those guys in my top five were almost auto includes. Fitzgerald has had some consistency issues in his career. This was the first time in his career that he has had back to back 1k plus yard seasons. http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfitz...e?id=FIT437493

You could also change the statement to "if people had him there then they were wrong."

Originally Posted by rcsodak

Surely you can find some more excuses....

Marsh is great between the 20's, just like cut-n-run'er was. But when it came to getting into the endzone, they both lacked that 'finishing touch'. Not to mention both of their tendencies for the TO.

My "excuses" are less hollow than your cliche name calling.