Thread: Bowlen meets with AWOL Broncos receiver mar$$$hall

First off. Clady (if anyone) is the lynchpin of this offense.

I agree that this story doesn't paint a positive picture regarding the chances of B.Marsh holding out/asking for trade/being unhappy. I can see his role in the new scheme not being to his liking, and Mc.D's not likely to mince words about that.

Ultimately though. Marshal is looking at his stats, then looking at the contracts of other wideouts around the league with similar stats.
Just like with Weigman, I can totally understand why B.Marsh is looking to get paid now. These guys must feel the stress when it comes to a business that can chew you up and spit you out as quickly as look at you. They must feel like they may not (in this kind of situation) get another shot at a big payday.
A BIG pro sports contract will grant the kind of wealth that can last generations. That's a lot to consider. Must feel like a HUGE responsibility (to some)

Broncos' Marshall again a no-show at minicamp
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 06/13/2009 11:06:24 AM MDT
Updated: 06/13/2009 11:13:02 AM MDT


As expected, Brandon Marshall did not show up again for Day Two of the Broncos' mandatory minicamp today.

Seeking a new contract, Marshall had skipped the previous three weeks of voluntary passing camp plus the first two days of the Broncos' three-day mandatory minicamp this weekend.

Marshall met Friday afternoon with Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, but apparently the star receiver wasn't satisfied enough with that conversation to return. After combining for 206 catches the previous two seasons, Marshall isn't pleased with the one year, $2.2 million remaining on his deal.

However, he is still recovering from hip surgery and has been involved in numerous police-related incidents the past five years.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12584694?source=rss

Originally Posted by SoCalImport

First off. Clady (if anyone) is the lynchpin of this offense.

I agree that this story doesn't paint a positive picture regarding the chances of B.Marsh holding out/asking for trade/being unhappy. I can see his role in the new scheme not being to his liking, and Mc.D's not likely to mince words about that.

Ultimately though. Marshal is looking at his stats, then looking at the contracts of other wideouts around the league with similar stats.
Just like with Weigman, I can totally understand why B.Marsh is looking to get paid now. These guys must feel the stress when it comes to a business that can chew you up and spit you out as quickly as look at you. They must feel like they may not (in this kind of situation) get another shot at a big payday.
A BIG pro sports contract will grant the kind of wealth that can last generations. That's a lot to consider. Must feel like a HUGE responsibility (to some)

he will likely not get any chance at a new contract in DEN and wind up doing just the opposite if they are not able to get a great player (all pro) in return or slew of draft choices from a weak assed team. he is going to be holding out the season for nothing but fines.

As it stands right now he is their property to do with for this year and two more RFA years that will mean the other team giving up and Number one choice the following year..

which means he is a bronco at 2.2 this year and 3.1+ the following two years.. Those are facts of life he could go to CFL till the broncos cut him or his contract plays out in 2012-13..

or he could suck it up and play like a mad man keep his nose clean and EARN a new contract from PAT and Josh..

now what do you think this twit will do?

Originally Posted by BroncoTech

In case you didn't realize we are in the worst recession since the great depression. I've noticed many of you spending Pat's money like it grows on trees. Well, trees are sustainable, these player's salaries, much like the housing market are not sustainable. Pat already spent Brandon's raise by paying off Shanny's contract.

Saying we should pay Brandon for what he's worth means your trying to sell me something like a house at the value it was 3 years ago, when the prices became unsustainable. Now you can get a house for 40% of what it was back then, so who's paying full value now? Only a fool.

So the team owners are trying to restructure the CBA by crying poor like they always do, only this time they are not crying wolf. They are not too big to fail. Careless checkbooks can doom them.

Actually, Pat Bowlen has been spending his money like it grows on trees.

Biggest offseason spending since forever.

Over 100 mil in the recession filled United States of the NFL.



Holding out is super bad news for Brandon. Cause if he holds out, he will be holding out into the season.


That will be about the time the money he has starts gettin real tight.

Owing huge fines, the pressure will mount every week that hes not in the lockeroom.................which means pressure at home...................with wife number one.

Marshall's hip is a huuuuuge question mark. He knows this and is trying to get some quick cash in case his career is negatively affected or severely shortened by the injury. Broncos would be dumb to extend his contract, unless there are production and injury caveats.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Actually, Pat Bowlen has been spending his money like it grows on trees.

Biggest offseason spending since forever.

Over 100 mil in the recession filled United States of the NFL.



Holding out is super bad news for Brandon. Cause if he holds out, he will be holding out into the season.


That will be about the time the money he has starts gettin real tight.

Owing huge fines, the pressure will mount every week that hes not in the lockeroom.................which means pressure at home...................with wife number one.

it is not just the holding out.. it is a matter of him "getting" the scheme.. his team mates have been working there asses off learning it and will be just that much farther ahead to the point they may doing it automatically while he is still thinking about it..

so even If he comes to camp now he is still a long way from being at the same level everyone else is..

this is not longer just lining up and going deep each time like last year.. or bubble screen... lots of deceptive routes by everyone involved to get those mismatches..

if he runs the route wrong it may cause the other WR to deflect other wise catchable balls into the defenses hands.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

Marshall has also cited a lack of trust in the Broncos' medical care as a reason for not wanting to rehab at the team's headquarters.

The Broncos have reason to consider Marshall an investment risk. The team might want to first see how he recovers from his hip surgery. He also has been involved in numerous off-field legal issues to the point where another infraction could leave him vulnerable to a long-term suspension under the league's personal conduct policy.


http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12577176?source=rss

Oh well. I was at least half right, Jrwiz.

Originally Posted by UnderArmour

Oh well. I was at least half right, Jrwiz.

but is it really justified.. his surgeon was from Colorado all he is doing down there is rehabbing which contrary to everyone that thinks FL is the best.. yet he spent a few days going to Reebok to sign that deal.. Sorry I think he head just inflated while he was in Waikiki to the point like jay, poorti$$$ and a few others that will not allow him to be happy in DEN again..

Maybe his new name should be mar$$$hall..

Originally Posted by rcsodak

Really? How'd they do game 1, last year?

Fine. But that QB is not in camp this year.

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

it is not just the holding out.. it is a matter of him "getting" the scheme.. his team mates have been working there asses off learning it and will be just that much farther ahead to the point they may doing it automatically while he is still thinking about it..

so even If he comes to camp now he is still a long way from being at the same level everyone else is..

this is not longer just lining up and going deep each time like last year.. or bubble screen... lots of deceptive routes by everyone involved to get those mismatches..

if he runs the route wrong it may cause the other WR to deflect other wise catchable balls into the defenses hands.

Well, up until this time, Brandon has been learning the offense and according to McDaniels, if Brandon gets into camp, there should be no problem.

He will at least be able to play the positions he knows well. The rest can come as he moves along.

It wont be an optimal situation for us, but it will still be highly effective imo.

Originally Posted by atwater27

Marshall's hip is a huuuuuge question mark. He knows this and is trying to get some quick cash in case his career is negatively affected or severely shortened by the injury. Broncos would be dumb to extend his contract, unless there are production and injury caveats.

I cant see how the questions involving his knee are qualified as huge.

He played the entire season pretty much with it.

14 games.

104 catches with a bum hip? I'll take it.



Extend him with behavior clauses that protect the Broncos.

I'm not worried about his hip.

Originally Posted by atwater27

Marshall's hip is a huuuuuge question mark. He knows this and is trying to get some quick cash in case his career is negatively affected or severely shortened by the injury. Broncos would be dumb to extend his contract, unless there are production and injury caveats.

Yep 2 100 reception seasons and 2 1000+ yard seasons and he's looking for "quick cash." I don't see how the hip is an issue. How many players career ended or was "severely shortened" by the injury? Smith doesn't qualify because he was already at the end of his career. Who else?

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Well, up until this time, Brandon has been learning the offense and according to McDaniels, if Brandon gets into camp, there should be no problem.

He will at least be able to play the positions he knows well. The rest can come as he moves along.

It wont be an optimal situation for us, but it will still be highly effective imo.

do you really believe this? or do you think Josh was trying to play nice nice with him after the jay-gate thingy.. do you really think he is remotely close to where the other WR are in learning this complex concise spread offense..

as I understand this scheme the WR run patterns to wipe off DB's and confuse the defense and read and react to what the defense does.. not like last year when he went deep about 80% of the time and took bubble screen the rest of the time..

Look I know he can't run/practice on the field but he could have been here studying film, setting in on meetings and being on the sidelines looking and seeing what the X's and O's really look like on the field..

But he has drawn the line in the sand and move out of dove valley.. fro what ever reason you want to believe I believe it is and always has been money..

Originally Posted by Jrwiz

he will likely not get any chance at a new contract in DEN and wind up doing just the opposite if they are not able to get a great player (all pro) in return or slew of draft choices from a weak assed team. he is going to be holding out the season for nothing but fines.

As it stands right now he is their property to do with for this year and two more RFA years that will mean the other team giving up and Number one choice the following year..

which means he is a bronco at 2.2 this year and 3.1+ the following two years.. Those are facts of life he could go to CFL till the broncos cut him or his contract plays out in 2012-13..

or he could suck it up and play like a mad man keep his nose clean and EARN a new contract from PAT and Josh..

now what do you think this twit will do?

If he isn't careful, he could be sitting on the bench this year, and not receiving ANY money!
And next year, teams will shy away from him. Well...everybody but the faid/chefs.

Originally Posted by OrangeHoof

Fine. But that QB is not in camp this year.

1. That wasn't your original point.

2. "No running game" last year *not my words, but others'*

3. Is it the QB that makes the wr look good, or vise versa?