Thread: for all the mcfadden people....

IF the broncos dont tank this season and end up 10-6 or something close. And we do lose henry to suspension. Would you want to trade up to pick 5 or 6 to get mcfadden knowing that we would have to give up of 1st this year and next and probably our 2nd this year and 4th this year and 3rd next year?

would you still want to go up and get him knowing we wouldnt draft again until rd 4?

no unproven player is worth that much...


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Originally Posted by anton...

no unproven player is worth that much...

I would tend to agree, even more so with Denver's system that doesn't need a 'great' back. I think having another 'great back' which we haven't had since TD would greatly help this offense, but not at that cost.

That would remind me of what Ditka did to get Ricky Williams, which didn't make the Saints a contender, or Minnesotta in trading for Hershell Walker. I don't think there are many players that it would be worth giving up an entire draft, or a significant part of two drafts to get.

definitley, i think we need a lb or dt which ever is the better player with our 1st. Rb is a need but not our whole draft.

Originally Posted by underrated29

IF the broncos dont tank this season and end up 10-6 or something close. And we do lose henry to suspension. Would you want to trade up to pick 5 or 6 to get mcfadden knowing that we would have to give up of 1st this year and next and probably our 2nd this year and 4th this year and 3rd next year?

would you still want to go up and get him knowing we wouldnt draft again until rd 4?

Two things Under.

1.) Unless McFadden is injuried severely or inexplicably falls off he will more than likely be the overall number one pick in the draft.

2.) Even if McFadden should fall to the 5th or 6th slot, we don't have full slate of draft picks to offer in trade.

thats what i meant if he fell to 5 or 6. We would have to almost give up our whole draft this year for him and some of next year. I was just wondering if you still thought he would be worth it at that price, or would it be better to wait for another rb.

Originally Posted by tnedator

I would tend to agree, even more so with Denver's system that doesn't need a 'great' back. I think having another 'great back' which we haven't had since TD would greatly help this offense, but not at that cost.

That would remind me of what Ditka did to get Ricky Williams, which didn't make the Saints a contender, or Minnesotta in trading for Hershell Walker. I don't think there are many players that it would be worth giving up an entire draft, or a significant part of two drafts to get.

While I believe you're correct about Denver not needing a great back for the system, having stud back like McFadden in this running attack would be fun to watch.

Originally Posted by underrated29

thats what i meant if he fell to 5 or 6. We would have to almost give up our whole draft this year for him and some of next year. I was just wondering if you still thought he would be worth it at that price, or would it be better to wait for another rb.

I think we would have to give up our entire draft to get him. Besides that, if the rumors are true that Jerry Jones wants to draft him, he got the ammo to get it done.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

While I believe you're correct about Denver not needing a great back for the system, having stud back like McFadden in this running attack would be fun to watch.

I agree. Even though the system was the same, the running game was so much better, and fun to watch, with TD back there.

no doubt, he would definitely be game planned agianst every single game, If he has goods hands that would make it even worse for defenses. Plus he would probably gurantee a redzone td ratio to go up.

Originally Posted by underrated29

IF the broncos dont tank this season and end up 10-6 or something close. And we do lose henry to suspension. Would you want to trade up to pick 5 or 6 to get mcfadden knowing that we would have to give up of 1st this year and next and probably our 2nd this year and 4th this year and 3rd next year?

would you still want to go up and get him knowing we wouldnt draft again until rd 4?

From my perspective, it kind of depends on how they utilize FA. But they do need a RB and there is a significant drop off after McFadden. Also, I was looking at the value chart and I think what you listed goes beyond that.

Originally Posted by lex

From my perspective, it kind of depends on how they utilize FA. But they do need a RB and there is a significant drop off after McFadden. Also, I was looking at the value chart and I think what you listed goes beyond that.

PRObably did, i didnt have a value chart to refrence, so i just took a guess as to what it would cost us to move up that high.
is it just 1st this year and next and 2nd this year and like a 6th this year?

There are too many needs to trade up as it stands right now, and they have no 3rd round pick.

....But like Lex said, it would depend on what they do in free agency (Which could be next to nothing thanks to Travis Henry), and it would depend on where the Broncos finish.

Originally Posted by underrated29

PRObably did, i didnt have a value chart to refrence, so i just took a guess as to what it would cost us to move up that high.
is it just 1st this year and next and 2nd this year and like a 6th this year?

FYI, http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

If you were to pick 20 in back to back years, it would exactly equal the #5 overall. But since its not certain where Denver might finish in 2008, it will likely cost another pick or two depending on how high it is.

Originally Posted by tnedator

I would tend to agree, even more so with Denver's system that doesn't need a 'great' back. I think having another 'great back' which we haven't had since TD would greatly help this offense, but not at that cost.

That would remind me of what Ditka did to get Ricky Williams, which didn't make the Saints a contender, or Minnesotta in trading for Hershell Walker. I don't think there are many players that it would be worth giving up an entire draft, or a significant part of two drafts to get.

But you have to remember that the coach did not ask for him nor did he play him once he got there..

It was not Hershel's fault he did not produce there.

But I agree with you if we are in the top 5 and have a chance at a great player then perhaps but to give up to much for a potential great one by trading down is another DAFT choice gone wild.

Myself I hope we never go after a stud RB in the draft as it is a crap shoot to start out with not even counting injuries..
We have been way to good at finding good to great RB later in the draft for a whole lot less money..