Thread: Schefter says Broncos have received multiple calls and will look to trade down

Originally Posted by pipes

Elvis Dumervil is pretty worthless.
#sarcasm

As is Brandon Marshall

Shannon Sharpe was a 7th, Davis a 6th. Pure scrubs.

Originally Posted by Cugel

The compensation for moving from #31 to #36 was actually LOSING POINTS. They got essentially NOTHING from this trade and actually lost a bit.

gave #31 = 600 points - gained #36 (540) = 60 points lost.
gained #101 = 96 points gained - gave #126 (46) points lost = 50 points gained.

50 - 60 = -10. So in order to trade down and move up in the fourth round they lost 10 points. So much for the premium for moving down.

10 points is obviously not a big deal. It's not like they lost their shirt, but what was the point?

There was simply no advantage in moving down. Their only justification is that they can probably get one of the same players they were targeting at #31 at #36. Worthy and Reyes and Fleener will all be there.

And a 2nd round pick will be slightly cheaper. As if we care about saving Pat Bowlen a few bucks!

If they believe they can get the guy they are targeting at #36, while turining a #126 into a #101, I think it's a good move.

Of course that's only if they get the guy they plan on at #36...Having said that, we'll probably never know if they get the guy they originally hoped for, as they probably won't admit it if the plan backfires.

Originally Posted by Cugel

Wrong. The points chart is the basis of all trades. And the point is NOT that you have to get exactly equal value. If the points are off by 100 points or something, oh well.

The point is that you are supposed to get SOMETHING.

You are supposed to generally come out ahead when trading down. The exact amount is flexible, but you should get SOMETHING for giving up your higher draft position.

What you are supposed to get is an "incentive" to trade down. You're supposed to gain points. You're not supposed to be so desperate to move down for some reason that you give UP value.

The point of all this is not that the Broncos lost their shirts. They didn't. But they didn't gain anything either. Instead they lost somewhat.

I get the feeling that the point chart is now obsolete with the changes in the rookie wage scale....that changed everything.

Wouldn't pay much attention to the charts anymore.

maybe not worthless but I would rather see 3rd's coming back than 4th's

as we've been saying all day.

Originally Posted by Northman

Must be sad to be a Bronco fan for some. Havent even drafted anyone yet and already they are jumping off cliffs. lol

well I've seen Denver drafts before, is there really that much to be optimistic about?

Originally Posted by weazel

maybe not worthless but I would rather see 3rd's coming back than 4th's

May still happen.

Originally Posted by weazel

well I've seen Denver drafts before, is there really that much to be optimistic about?

Ive been there with you but last year didnt turn out bad, no reason to think this will be any worse. Plenty of good players still on the board as i showed in the draft thread.


Overall Player Rankings that are left:

Courtney Upshaw - Ranked 14th
Peter Konz- Ranked 21st
Devon Still- Ranked 22nd
Johnathan Martin- Ranked 25th
Stephen Hill- Ranked 29th

Any of these would be great value at 36.

Lamar Miller- Ranked 38th
Mychal Kendricks- Ranked 39th
Janoris Jenkins- Ranked 40th
Jerel Worthy- Ranked 47th
Chris Polk- Ranked 49th
Jayron Hosley- Ranked 50th
Alameda Ta'amu- Ranked 51st
LaMichael James- Ranked 54th

Any of these before we pick at 57 would be of value.


I think we will be in good shape man. Now, if they take Foles with #36 i will be right there with you. But we should let it play out before bringing the hammer down.

Originally Posted by weazel

well I've seen Denver drafts before, is there really that much to be optimistic about?

totally different front office and coaching staff. new director of scouting, but you're going to lump it all together? Wow that makes sense.

where'd those rankings come from North?

Originally Posted by Cugel

Wrong. The points chart is the basis of all trades. And the point is NOT that you have to get exactly equal value. If the points are off by 100 points or something, oh well.

The point is that you are supposed to get SOMETHING.

You are supposed to generally come out ahead when trading down. The exact amount is flexible, but you should get SOMETHING for giving up your higher draft position.

What you are supposed to get is an "incentive" to trade down. You're supposed to gain points. You're not supposed to be so desperate to move down for some reason that you give UP value.

The point of all this is not that the Broncos lost their shirts. They didn't. But they didn't gain anything either. Instead they lost somewhat.

zero trades from last night followed the chart you deem to be gospel.

Originally Posted by Jsteve01

where'd those rankings come from North?

Drafttek

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

zero trades from last night followed the chart you deem to be gospel.

I know right?

Originally Posted by Northman

Ive been there with you but last year didnt turn out bad, no reason to think this will be any worse. Plenty of good players still on the board as i showed in the draft thread.


Overall Player Rankings that are left:

Courtney Upshaw - Ranked 14th
Peter Konz- Ranked 21st
Devon Still- Ranked 22nd
Johnathan Martin- Ranked 25th
Stephen Hill- Ranked 29th

Any of these would be great value at 36.

Lamar Miller- Ranked 38th
Mychal Kendricks- Ranked 39th
Janoris Jenkins- Ranked 40th
Jerel Worthy- Ranked 47th
Chris Polk- Ranked 49th
Jayron Hosley- Ranked 50th
Alameda Ta'amu- Ranked 51st
LaMichael James- Ranked 54th

Any of these before we pick at 57 would be of value.


I think we will be in good shape man. Now, if they take Foles with #36 i will be right there with you. But we should let it play out before bringing the hammer down.

You left of Cordy Glenn-OT/OG