Thread: Great Breakdown on McDaniels Offense

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/4...els-way-part-4

This is the 4th part of a 4 part series. I looked and didn't see it posted, but if the rest of the series has I apologize.

I STRONGLY recommend taking some time and reading this series, starting with the 1st installment (located here: http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3...els-way-part-1).

They break down the Patriots offense and compare it to Denvers offense under Shanahan. It's very well done, and has given me a lot to be excited about.

Anyways, enjoy!

big differance in the two offenses is that new england knew how to punch it in the red zone. we never have had problems getting yards it mainly just putting points on the board in the redzone. yeah we hit a few home runs here and there, got the lead but seemed to dwindle down to the "just hang on" mentality.

new england is rated #7 in the last 4 years in scoring. hopefully we will be something remotely close to that. they also have a "franchise" qb named tom brady too. we now have a game manager in kyle orton.

I'm sure Brady has a lot to do with it, but read the entire series if you haven't.

Denver's offense has been impressive and flashy, but horribly inefficient. New Englands has been the model of patience, and efficiency. I hope that McDaniels can really bring that mind-set and effectiveness to this offense. And with the weapons Denver still has on the offense, there might not be the step backwards on offense many of us expect with the loss of Cutler.

Originally Posted by powderaddict

I'm sure Brady has a lot to do with it, but read the entire series if you haven't.

Denver's offense has been impressive and flashy, but horribly inefficient. New Englands has been the model of patience, and efficiency. I hope that McDaniels can really bring that mind-set and effectiveness to this offense. And with the weapons Denver still has on the offense, there might not be the step backwards on offense many of us expect with the loss of Cutler.

Maybe PA but I think the chances of the offense taking a step backwards are far greater than taking a step forward.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

Maybe PA but I think the chances of the offense taking a step backwards are far greater than taking a step forward.

It's possible, but I would attribute that more to learning the new scheme. I wouldn't be surprised to see some struggles early on, and getting much better as the season goes on.

I wouldn't expect them to gain more yards, but I do expect them to get more bang for the buck - more TOP, and most importantly, more points out of the yards they do get. If they could increase the TOP, this would greatly help the defense as well.

One thing the Broncos have that has produced much better than NE as of late is the O-line, and McD kept the coaches in charge of that on. He can integrate some of the things the Patriots do well on the O-line (pulling guards, etc) into place with what Denver has been doing with great success. He also is committed to the running game, something Denver has not been over the last couple of years.

Again, it's an absolutely fantastic series, it will really open your eyes on a lot of things

Originally Posted by powderaddict

I'm sure Brady has a lot to do with it, but read the entire series if you haven't.

Denver's offense has been impressive and flashy, but horribly inefficient. New Englands has been the model of patience, and efficiency. I hope that McDaniels can really bring that mind-set and effectiveness to this offense. And with the weapons Denver still has on the offense, there might not be the step backwards on offense many of us expect with the loss of Cutler.

all good articles...didnt finish all of it but i like what i read so far.

our redzone issues fall on the lack of having a solid rb. yeah we have always produced mainly by committee and that is a product of our zbs. but now with a new system/hybrid zbs i think it wont be as effective. josh isnt going to have the same kind of success that mike had with scrub rbs.

although....new england prefered to throw td's.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

all good articles...didnt finish all of it but i like what i read so far.

our redzone issues fall on the lack of having a solid rb. yeah we have always produced mainly by committee and that is a product of our zbs. but now with a new system/hybrid zbs i think it wont be as effective. josh isnt going to have the same kind of success that mike had with scrub rbs.

although....new england prefered to throw td's.

They've had pretty good success with the RB's in NE, and I wouldn't say any of NE's RB have been anything but scrubs.

Originally Posted by powderaddict

They've had pretty good success with the RB's in NE, and I wouldn't say any of NE's RB have been anything but scrubs.

no...but we have went after scrubs. i think its time to change that. even the pats go after 1st round rb's. maybe its time we find our own lt, lj, ap???? ive longed for a rb since portis.

Originally Posted by powderaddict

I'm sure Brady has a lot to do with it, but read the entire series if you haven't.

Denver's offense has been impressive and flashy, but horribly inefficient. New Englands has been the model of patience, and efficiency. I hope that McDaniels can really bring that mind-set and effectiveness to this offense. And with the weapons Denver still has on the offense, there might not be the step backwards on offense many of us expect with the loss of Cutler.

Impressive and flashy is what Cutler was...however effective, efficient, and PATIENT he was not and never has been in his college or NFL career.

I think that was important to McDaniels and trading CUtler. You don't need a rocket arm in order to operate this offense. What you need is a brain, patience, and the willingness to take what the Defense gives you. Cutler has never been able to do any of those three. Give me a veteran QB who knows what it takes with a mediocre arm and we will win at minimum 10 games this year.

Originally Posted by DenBronx

no...but we have went after scrubs. i think its time to change that. even the pats go after 1st round rb's. maybe its time we find our own lt, lj, ap???? ive longed for a rb since portis.

Maroney is only running back I know of that they have drafted in the first round since Billy Bob became their head coach.

Originally Posted by Watchthemiddle

Impressive and flashy is what Cutler was...however effective, efficient, and PATIENT he was not and never has been in his college or NFL career.

I think that was important to McDaniels and trading CUtler. You don't need a rocket arm in order to operate this offense. What you need is a brain, patience, and the willingness to take what the Defense gives you. Cutler has never been able to do any of those three. Give me a veteran QB who knows what it takes with a mediocre arm and we will win at minimum 10 games this year.

I strongly disagree here. I think in the games that we had balance. Rushing, recieving, and werent trying to play catch up, or cling to a lead. Jay did just that. Take what the defense gave him. The first few games of the season and many games last year would show that.....Of course he didnt do it all the time and was only in his 2nd year, but he could have easily adapted Mcd scheme to his game...

Now though we wont find out. Which of course sucks, but with kyle we do have exactly what you say. Someone who will play within the boundries and if he does that we can win. Which is a good thing.



Most importantly i see our points scored going up big time simply for the fact that we can run the football in the redzone this year.

Originally Posted by underrated29

I strongly disagree here. I think in the games that we had balance. Rushing, recieving, and werent trying to play catch up, or cling to a lead. Jay did just that. Take what the defense gave him. The first few games of the season and many games last year would show that.....Of course he didnt do it all the time and was only in his 2nd year, but he could have easily adapted Mcd scheme to his game...

Now though we wont find out. Which of course sucks, but with kyle we do have exactly what you say. Someone who will play within the boundries and if he does that we can win. Which is a good thing.



Most importantly i see our points scored going up big time simply for the fact that we can run the football in the redzone this year.

If the defense and the special teams come around we can win. Without that an average quarterback isn't to fair to well.

I am trying to stay positive here.

Originally Posted by underrated29

I am trying to stay positive here.

Me to, I don't want Denver to fail but I also know that without descent special teams and solid defense it's going to be hard to win games.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

Me to, I don't want Denver to fail but I also know that without descent special teams and solid defense it's going to be hard to win games.

If the offense is holding on to the ball longer, converting 1sts, getting consistant production from the running game, that will help all phases.

Of course, the other areas need to improve if Denver wants to be one of the elite teams of the AFC, but I'm excited to see what this offense can do.

I'm not expecting an overnight miracle, but there is basis for hope.