Thread: Your Top 5 Bands...

Originally Posted by King87

Let's meet in the middle and just have you die.

She doesn't write her own songs, btw. You're a dunce if you believe that.

Eh, i think she does. I could be wrong but i swear i read or saw a video (probably part of her doc that Missy watched) in where she said she wrote her own stuff. But i could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Northman

Eh, i think she does. I could be wrong but i swear i read or saw a video (probably part of her doc that Missy watched) in where she said she wrote her own stuff. But i could be wrong.

It's her claim. I just don't believe it. It's not even because I think the lyrics are so great that she couldn't do them herself. I think they're good. I think she's talented enough to do them. I'm dubious about it.

Originally Posted by King87

Let's meet in the middle and just have you die.

She doesn't write her own songs, btw. You're a dunce if you believe that.

It's her claim. I just don't believe it. It's not even because I think the lyrics are so great that she couldn't do them herself. I think they're good. I think she's talented enough to do them. I'm dubious about it.

King has been outed as a misogynist pig.

Originally Posted by aberdien

King has been outed as a misogynist pig.

I just inked four Netflix specials, bitch!

https://cherwell.org/2022/02/16/recl...riting-genius/

On Tuesday 25th of January 2022, Blur and Gorillaz frontman Damon Albarn woke up and chose violence – or at the very least, a monumental dragging on Twitter. Albarn, in an interview with the Los Angeles Times, was asked by journalist Mikael Wood if he thought modern musicians relied on ‘sound and attitude’ over true talent. Wood, answering Albarn’s call to name a musician who is more than a slick surface, stated ‘Taylor Swift is an excellent songwriter’, to which Albarn replied – ‘she doesn’t write her own songs’. Thus began – or rather, re-started – a conversation about the state of modern pop songwriting.

It seems wilfully ignorant for a musician to not know of Taylor Swift’s commitment to writing her own material. Swift is no stranger to these kinds of accusations – her 2010 album Speak Now was entirely self-written, in part, she said, to prove her songwriting prowess to the naysayers. But this was over ten years, three Album of the Year Grammy’s and several dozen awards for songwriting ago. US Bookies has done the maths; 30% of Taylor Swift’s songs were written by her alone, and the remaining 70% feature her as a co-writer. Drake and Justin Bieber, on the contrary, have written none of their songs alone.

I think part of what attracts the distancing of self-professed ‘real’ musicians from Swift’s body of work is that she makes it look easy. Swift doesn’t use alternate tunings or 5/4 time signature – she uses relatively simple chords, lyrics drawn from her feelings and melodies simple enough to stick in your mind. But all of this requires a level of openness and creativity that shouldn’t be dismissed.

Ultimately, everyone thinks the soundtrack to their coming of age is the greatest era of music. My writing this article is likely prompted by memories of singing along to ‘Fearless’ on the way to school and belting out ‘Love Story’ with my friends on the oval. But there are great musicians in every generation, brilliant songwriters who distil our experiences with love, heartbreak, fun and fury into notes and words that carry us through our days. It’s easy to be cynical about newer music, to discount younger generations by lifting up ourselves and our tastes.

So one of her worst albums she wrote herself, she's listed on a bunch of her songs as a 'co-writer' and that could mean just about anything as people get creative with their credits all the time, and the defense is two artists who have admitted (at least Drake has) that they have writers. Meanwhile "she makes it look easy," which is a claim based on...simple lyrics and basic guitar playing...from an artist who is notoriously mocked for being a lousy singer by the likes of Aretha Franklin....

JFC. Sometimes simplicity is amazing and other times it is a shield for lack of substance.

Originally Posted by King87

So one of her worst albums she wrote herself, she's listed on a bunch of her songs as a 'co-writer' and that could mean just about anything as people get creative with their credits all the time, and the defense is two artists who have admitted (at least Drake has) that they have writers. Meanwhile "she makes it look easy," which is a claim based on...simple lyrics and basic guitar playing...from an artist who is notoriously mocked for being a lousy singer by the likes of Aretha Franklin....

JFC. Sometimes simplicity is amazing and other times it is a shield for lack of substance.

King is out here leading the war on women!

1. Speak Now is one of her best albums.

2. She is the first person listed on each cowriting credit which means she wrote most of the songs with editing/assistance from other people, usually the same people. I wonder how many songs that guy from Blur wrote all by himself!

3. Her voice was criticized early in her career when she was a teenage girl...now nobody criticizes it because she has literally grown up and refined her craft. Get with the times old man, it's 2022.

Originally Posted by aberdien

King is out here leading the war on women!

1. Speak Now is one of her best albums.

2. She is the first person listed on each cowriting credit which means she wrote most of the songs with editing/assistance from other people, usually the same people. I wonder how many songs that guy from Blur wrote all by himself!

3. Her voice was criticized early in her career when she was a teenage girl...now nobody criticizes it because she has literally grown up and refined her craft. Get with the times old man, it's 2022.

1 - No.

2 - Sweet, that doesn't make the dubious claim true.

3 - She literally got bashed by Aretha Franklin not all that long ago.

You are entitled to your questionable opinion that is supported by absurdity. I am glad you like her songs; but she's really not all that great of a talent. Don't fret; neither is Justin Bieber, Drake, or anyone else mentioned in that dreadful article you posted to defend her.

You are, however, a poop.

In a new interview with the Los Angeles Times, British musician Damon Albarn denounced Swift as a songwriter, saying, “She doesn’t write her own songs.” When the interviewer pointed out that Swift does, in fact, write and cowrite her music, he doubled down.

“That doesn’t count. I know what cowriting is. Cowriting is very different to writing,” he said. “I’m not hating on anybody, I’m just saying there’s a big difference between a songwriter and a songwriter who cowrites. Doesn’t mean that the outcome can’t be really great.”



When people debate greatest rappers of all-time, one of the reasons why Drake gets tossed out by many is because he co-writes/has ghostwriters. That's what I'm driving at.

Originally Posted by King87

1 - No.

2 - Sweet, that doesn't make the dubious claim true.

3 - She literally got bashed by Aretha Franklin not all that long ago.

You are entitled to your questionable opinion that is supported by absurdity. I am glad you like her songs; but she's really not all that great of a talent. Don't fret; neither is Justin Bieber, Drake, or anyone else mentioned in that dreadful article you posted to defend her.

You are, however, a poop.

1. You have never listened to it.

2. Only a ShaneFalco-tier conspirator would believe she didn't write her songs...or somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about!

3. My dude, that was 10 years ago. Let me know how many acclaimed songs Aretha co-wrote with somebody else, much less wrote by herself. She is dead while T-Swift lives. Old people are wrong about most things anyway.

Originally Posted by King87

In a new interview with the Los Angeles Times, British musician Damon Albarn denounced Swift as a songwriter, saying, “She doesn’t write her own songs.” When the interviewer pointed out that Swift does, in fact, write and cowrite her music, he doubled down.

“That doesn’t count. I know what cowriting is. Cowriting is very different to writing,” he said. “I’m not hating on anybody, I’m just saying there’s a big difference between a songwriter and a songwriter who cowrites. Doesn’t mean that the outcome can’t be really great.”



When people debate greatest rappers of all-time, one of the reasons why Drake gets tossed out by many is because he co-writes/has ghostwriters. That's what I'm driving at.

King over here letting some British dork with no air conditioning who doesn't listen to and has never worked with Taylor swift mansplain how she writes songs lmfao.

Originally Posted by aberdien

1. You have never listened to it.

2. Only a ShaneFalco-tier conspirator would believe she didn't write her songs...or somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about!

3. My dude, that was 10 years ago. Let me know how many acclaimed songs Aretha co-wrote with somebody else, much less wrote by herself. She is dead while T-Swift lives. Old people are wrong about most things anyway.

1 - How do you know?

2 - Really, only a loser like SF would think someone would lie on their resume?

3 - Ten years ago isn't a long time ago when you're old like I am. Aretha wasn't a great songwriter; she was a GOAT singer. Taylor has a weak singing voice. FFS, her entire entrance into the business was based on cronyism anyway.

I already put one former friend on ignore earlier, I'll not hesitate to do it to a TS loving midget!!!!!

Originally Posted by aberdien

King over here letting some British dork with no air conditioning who doesn't listen to and has never worked with Taylor swift mansplain how she writes songs lmfao.

Abe over here simping for a muskrat-faced ho who can't sing while he also incorrectly applies mansplaining. She has a bad voice, writes simplistic songs, and mostly co-writes her high-school-emotion-laden lyrics. Stop listening to your **** and listen with your ears, you horny chihuahua.

The problem with having opinions on message boards is that people might dig up a decade-or-days-old thread that makes you look foolish... I sometimes listen to those bands mentioned in the OP, but not very often.