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    Default Cutler's agent Cooks up another drama

    Sorry if this has been posted already - I didn't see it anywhere and it's a good read.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...-another-drama

    by John Czarnecki

    There are a number of issues to consider in this Jay Cutler "I want to be traded" drama. First, Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels isn't Bill Belichick. He's only 32 and he's new to being the boss. He's also not used to being around a pouty, immature quarterback.

    Then, there is Cutler's agent, Bus Cook. Fans became familiar with Cook last summer because he is Brett Favre's agent. And we all know how that once great Favre-Green Bay marriage turned out. It went up in flames and now Favre is retired and looking for TV work.

    Cook has forever claimed that he couldn't reason with Favre and protect him from himself. That's why Favre landed with the Jets and not with Jon Gruden and the Bucs. I always thought a wise, old agent like Cook would have pulled those strings a little better than he did.

    But give Cook credit. He's been pulling the strings nicely for Cutler. Everyone should know that Cutler has wanted out of Denver ever since Mike Shanahan was fired and quarterback coach Jeremy Bates left for USC shortly afterward.

    Before McDaniels and the Broncos pursued a failed trade for Matt Cassel, Cook had already been begging to get his client out. Denver told him no from the beginning. But somehow Cook has been able — how hilarious is this? — to paint Cutler as some victim in the cruel world of NFL trade talk. At the moment, the Broncos seem to be losing the PR war.

    Cutler is from Santa Claus, Indiana. So, he wouldn't mind playing in the Midwest, but probably not Detroit. He wouldn't mind Tampa, either, considering the Bucs were very serious about possibly acquiring him in the botched three-way trade with New England.

    A wise man once told me it's not about more money, but dollars always seem to be an issue. Cassel, who has played one NFL season since high school, is on the financial ledger for $14.6 million this season. Cutler, a first-round bonus baby, has a $2.3 million salary for 2009. The only way Cook is going to receive a better commission (and a higher salary for his 25-year-old quarterback) is by forcing Denver to trade Cutler, who is entering the fourth year of a six-year contract.

    I don't know what to make of Cutler. He turned me off last season when he said his arm was better than John Elway's. He talks about McDaniels not being smart enough to simply pull him aside and talk to him one-on-one and sing sweet accolades into his ear.

    One NFL general manager emailed me, saying Cutler's immaturity has plagued him throughout his Broncos' tenure. Consequently, prospective suitors are forewarned that Cutler may look great on Sunday, zipping passes on the field, but that he has poor practice habits, has never been a lover of watching film or isn't a leader like Tom Brady. Oh, and his won-lost record is 17-20.

    It is going to be hard for McDaniels to turn this situation around. But there is no question that he needs to be able to talk with Cutler alone. Cutler needs to make his own decisions without Cook in the room. In Green Bay, the Packers never felt that Cook helped matters when dealing with Favre. The same situation has mushroomed in Denver, where McDaniels feels he might get somewhere with Cutler if he's minus Cook. The agent is complicating matters.

    By now, knowing what he knows about Cutler, the young head coach is torn about what course to pursue. But it is never good to be trading a star player while in a weakened position. Teams never seem to receive the proper compensation — like two first-round picks — when a petulant player is making demands and failing to show for work. Yes, this week's minicamp is optional, but you would think that a young quarterback would want to find out how McDaniels is as a coach before turning his back on him.

    The league's owner meetings begin Sunday in Dana Point, Ca. and Denver's Pat Bowlen and McDaniels will be able to talk directly to any potential bidders for Cutler. Tampa Bay, Detroit and Minnesota make the most sense because all three teams need a starting quarterback. Yes, the Vikings just signed Sage Rosenfels to compete with Tarvaris Jackson, but no one really views him as a long-term solution.

    The dilemma for Denver is what quarterback do they pursue or accept as compensation? The cupboard is pretty bare, and that's why Cleveland is mentioned (Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson) and Arizona (Matt Leinart). The Jets may join the pursuit, too. The Bears, who were Cutler's favorite team while growing up in Indiana, make a lot of sense, but they seem to be pinching pennies again. Also, I don't see Kyle Orton as Denver's next quarterback. Right now, forgotten Chris Simms is running with the first team in Denver.

    It would be ridiculous for Denver to trade Cutler to Detroit for the first overall pick, and thus be forced to pay either Georgia's Matt Stafford or USC's Mark Sanchez about $33 million in guaranteed money if they deem either one of those prospects as a decent replacement. Both Tampa and Detroit have mid-first round picks, but it's unlikely either of those quarterbacks would be available at No. 19 or No. 20, respectively.

    The bottom line is that the Broncos would be better off keeping Cutler and finding a way to make it work. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

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    I cant find the good read part.

    Cutler has poor practice habits?

    His own teamates vouch for a different view.

    And this continued notion that Cutler has wanted out of Denver from the get go is pretty ignorant considering what we already know.
    IN PATON I TRUST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    I cant find the good read part.

    Cutler has poor practice habits?

    His own teamates vouch for a different view.

    And this continued notion that Cutler has wanted out of Denver from the get go is pretty ignorant considering what we already know.
    Simply a different perspective. No one knows whether or not it is accurate, just like your above statements.

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    Bus Cook is a manipulating SOB trying to squeeze every penny he can out of Jay....Just like he did Brett, for more than a decade.

    At the end of the day, this is a money making business...And agents have to be ruthless to try and have their high profile clients paid top dollar...Jay though should be smarter and more mature to make his own decisions and meet one on one with his current employers. Thus making Bus Cook a Lying, cheating, manipulating mother F'er.....And Cutler a naive puppet who shits gold.

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    This is posted someplace else, but I'll be damned if I can remember where. There are so many of these threads......
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    dang it go drink some Fireball and find your own dang chicken....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARHORSE View Post
    I cant find the good read part.

    Cutler has poor practice habits?

    His own teamates vouch for a different view.

    And this continued notion that Cutler has wanted out of Denver from the get go is pretty ignorant considering what we already know.
    just food for thought perhaps all of the glowing reports about Jay in the past were from mikey and coaching staff that has an agenda or other teammates like Marshall/Scheffler or others that want the ball more..

    Or just that anyone else on the team that wanted to stay out of mikeys dog house as a blind man could see the man love there..

    If it were player and saw that Jay pretty much had a blind eye for anyone not named Marshall/Scheffler and the coaching staff basically said go d for it who is gonna jump up and say they are doing a bad job..

    princess jay has had mikeys and Jeremie's ear and could do not wrong in their eyes as they knew the only thing between them and the unemployment line was a booming offense.. especially after seeing how bad the D was..

    And we all know the reason for that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by frauschieze View Post
    This is posted someplace else, but I'll be damned if I can remember where. There are so many of these threads......
    I saw it also but not gonna waste time trying to find it.. let is ride

    what the hell

    why not have 87 concurrent threads going about the great and wonderous jay..

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    Yeah, all Cutler's mistakes were because we were playing from behind and our defense sucked.

    Posted in another thread, regarding our eight losses:

    KC -3 @ end of the 3rd Q (2 INT's, 2 Fumbles)
    Jags -3 @ the 1/2 (1 int, 2 fumbles)
    NE - Blowout (2 int, 3 fumbles)
    MIA -6 @ end of the third (3 int)
    OAK -7 @ end of the third (1 int, 1 fumble)
    CAR - Blowout (1 int, 1 fumble)
    BUF +4 @ end of the third (1 int [CRITICAL], 1 fumble)
    SD - Blowout (2 int)

    Only three or four games where it was out of reach by the end of the 3rd.
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    Regarding the Dolphins game, the Dolphins scored 13 of their points off turnovers. In the last five games, (previous to the Dolphins game) the Broncos have allowed 60 points off turnovers while not scoring a single point off takeaways themselves.

    So, is that offense or defense? 2nd "ranked" offense in the NFL, but could only muster the position of 16 in scoring.

    Our defense sucked, but the offense wasn't the Juggernaut everyone thinks it is.

    Neither is our whining QB. Yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoJoe View Post
    Yeah, all Cutler's mistakes were because we were playing from behind and our defense sucked.

    Posted in another thread, regarding our eight losses:

    KC -3 @ end of the 3rd Q (2 INT's, 2 Fumbles)
    Jags -3 @ the 1/2 (1 int, 2 fumbles)
    NE - Blowout (2 int, 3 fumbles)
    MIA -6 @ end of the third (3 int)
    OAK -7 @ end of the third (1 int, 1 fumble)
    CAR - Blowout (1 int, 1 fumble)
    BUF +4 @ end of the third (1 int [CRITICAL], 1 fumble)
    SD - Blowout (2 int)

    Only three or four games where it was out of reach by the end of the 3rd.
    the bottom line though is regardless of the reason he was QB of record..

    Whether the defense allowed sustained drives or the OLINE sucked or the RB could not gain yardage he was the QB and trying harder does not always get success..

    He caused some to the issues and folks need to realize while he has potential so far he has not been a winner since high school.. Does that mean without a GREAT supporting cast and system he will not win more than he loses.. Only time WILL tell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrwiz View Post
    the bottom line though is regardless of the reason he was QB of record..

    Whether the defense allowed sustained drives or the OLINE sucked or the RB could not gain yardage he was the QB and trying harder does not always get success..

    He caused some to the issues and folks need to realize while he has potential so far he has not been a winner since high school.. Does that mean without a GREAT supporting cast and system he will not win more than he loses.. Only time WILL tell..
    With the exception of Brady and P. Manning no other QB would have a better record with this defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncohead View Post
    With the exception of Brady and P. Manning no other QB would have a better record with this defense.

    I'm not caring or talking about DEN I think jay has more issues than just having a strong arm..

    mikey allowed him to get away with almost ignoring short possession type plays to build his and Marshall's stats.. hard to get fired if you have a great #2 offense with 7 RB's on IR.. I think this was the Bunker mentality after about mid season..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrwiz View Post
    I'm not caring or talking about DEN I think jay has more issues than just having a strong arm..

    mikey allowed him to get away with almost ignoring short possession type plays to build his and Marshall's stats.. hard to get fired if you have a great #2 offense with 7 RB's on IR.. I think this was the Bunker mentality after about mid season..
    So you think Shanny was trying to pad Cutlers and Marshalls stats? I don't think that at all. I think Cutler was over confident in Marshall and if his first read was covered or he was under pressure it went to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncohead View Post
    So you think Shanny was trying to pad Cutlers and Marshalls stats? I don't think that at all. I think Cutler was over confident in Marshall and if his first read was covered or he was under pressure it went to him.
    I think it was a mutual admiration society about this.. Everyone in the stands and on TV saw that almost every time jay forced a ball into double or triple coverage someone underneath was open.. But jay locks onto a WR (Marshall) and will not see the others were open.. If we saw this on game day there would be NO EXCUSES during film study..

    What other conclusion could a logical person come to?


    At a certain point I think mikey knew he was in deep do do and thought it was a/his salvation per see..

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    I still don't understand why Cutler is trying to "spin this".

    It's clear he wanted out before McDaniels even allegedly tried to trade him.

    McDaniels tries to do him a solid by granting him what he wants, he tries to spin it to make him a "victim".

    Man, circus act, with Cutler as the ring leader.

    No wonder were such a soft organization.

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