Thread: Yup, Jay is not a drama queen

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

If that's fine like you say it is then if the person in authority handles his end better then maybe we avoid all this.

Has the "boss" said anything to the media other than denying the trade talk happened? Has McDaniels refused to talk about the scenario because he just wanted to "lay low" (while whining to the media at the same time)?

Originally Posted by JONtheBRONCO

Thought a couple members here might enjoy this read...

Cutler's act is wearing thin -- quickly
By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com

Will someone please give Jay Cutler his pacifier, hand him his favorite blankie and put him back in his crib for his afternoon nap? Because if he cries anymore about a trade that didn't happen, we'll have to check his Pampers.

Cutler is the quarterback of the Denver Broncos. At least for now he is.

Turns out the Broncos are/were shopping him. The three-way trade between the Broncos, New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't reach critical mass, but names (Cutler to the Bucs, Matt Cassel to the Broncos) and numbers (first- and fourth-round draft picks to the Patriots) were discussed.

But it didn't happen. Repeat: didn't happen.

Instead, the Patriots traded Cassel and his franchise-tag salary to the Kansas City Chiefs. And Cutler is still a Bronco.

But the mere thought of a possible trade upset Cutler so much that he went into full waaaa-waaaa-waaaa mode, wailing like an infant. Why are they being so mean to me?

That sort of thing.

"I'm upset," he told The Denver Post. "I mean, I'm really shocked at this point."

And this from Cutler's agent, James "Bus" Cook, who told The Associated Press,

"Nobody's going to call the [New York] Giants and ask for Eli [Manning]. Nobody's calling the [Indianapolis] Colts asking about Peyton [Manning]. [Tom] Brady? Come on.
So, why call Denver and ask about Jay? And if they do call, why not say, 'That's not for discussion. What else do you want?'"

Why call Denver and ask about Cutler? Because the Broncos haven't reached the playoffs since the 2005 season. Because Cutler's record as a starter is 17-20. Because new Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels just happened to coach Cassel last season. And Cassel's team finished 11-5, including a 41-7 victory against Cutler's Broncos in October.

Nobody is calling the Giants and the Colts about the Manning brothers because the Manning brothers actually reach the postseason and have won Super Bowls. And here's guessing somebody called the Patriots asking whether Brady might be available.

Cook, more than anyone, should know that anything is possible in the NFL. Just ask Brett Favre, one of Cook's longtime clients.

Don't get me wrong -- Cutler is a talent, possibly a major talent. His numbers keep tracking upward (4,526 passing yards, 25 touchdowns in '08), but so do his turnovers (18 interceptions, including four in Denver's last three games -- all losses) and hissy fits.

None of this Cutler trade talk likely would have happened if Mike Shanahan were still the Broncos' head coach. Shanahan is the guy who drafted Cutler with the 11th pick of the 2006 draft. They were attached at the hip pads.

But Shanahan is Broncos history. It happens. Last week it happened to 11-time Pro Bowl linebacker Derrick Brooks of the Bucs. He was cut after 14 years.

Brooks didn't pout like Cutler. And his agent didn't issue any angry criticisms of the Bucs' decision. Instead, Brooks articulated the essential truth of the NFL: It's business, not personal.

"Everybody has a picture that they want painted their own particular way, but when the picture's not painted your way, you don't kick and scream," Brooks told reporters. "You be a man about it."

Cutler is kicking and screaming. Poor baby. He stiffed the Broncos when they requested a kiss-and-make-up session. Word is he won't even talk to McDaniels on the phone.

So what if the Broncos considered proposals from the Bucs? Who cares whether they listened to an offer from the Detroit Lions? When you haven't reached the playoffs since '05, when you gag away a three-game division lead with three games left, you listen to everybody about anybody.

Come to think about it, what's so bad about the Bucs? New coach -- Raheem Morris. New tight end -- Kellen Winslow. Newly re-upped wide receivers -- Antonio Bryant (franchise-tagged) and Michael Clayton. And did we mention that Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall was arrested again?

"If they were in fact trying to trade Jay Cutler, then I think that's a situation that's going to cause a very serious problem for the organization," Cook huffed and puffed.

Why? Because Cutler's precious feelings were hurt? Please.

The nontrade causes serious problems only if Cutler wants it that way. To whine about the Broncos' kicking the tires on a trade accomplishes nothing. Especially from a guy with zero playoff appearances and a grand total of 37 NFL games.

Cutler has accomplished nothing in this league. He has pretty passing numbers, but so what? It's time for him do a Brooks and grow up. It's time for him to spit out the pacifier.

Comparing Brook's sitch to Cutlers is utterly rediculous.

Originally Posted by turftoad

Comparing Brook's sitch to Cutlers is utterly rediculous.

Brooks was at the end of his career, and the Bucs did mishandle the situation, but not nearly as bad as our own coach has handled this.

Originally Posted by turftoad

Comparing Brook's sitch to Cutlers is utterly rediculous.

OK...let's try Carmelo Anthony...

Melo to Jay: Bottom line, it's a business
By Benjamin Hochman
The Denver Post

INDIANAPOLIS — Recently, a Denver sports star in his mid-20s, who is devoted to the team that drafted him, discovered that his team was talking trade. Oh, come to think of it, this also happened to Jay Cutler.

Yes, one might recall last summer when NBA teams, notably Detroit, inquired about acquiring Carmelo Anthony.

"At first, it was like, 'What the (expletive) is going on,' " the Nuggets' Anthony said Sunday. "But you don't really know what's going on."

Nuggets executives will never send an opposing exec to voice mail, so when teams asked about trading for Anthony, it was their job to at least listen. But when word got out that Denver even considered a Melo trade, he wasn't pleased.

And so, Anthony could relate to the emotions involving the Broncos' quarterback, who learned Friday he was part of a proposed three-team deal with Tampa Bay and New England, although it never materialized.

"You got to learn that it is a business, especially with him," said Anthony, who last summer was ultimately reassured by Nuggets exec Rex Chapman that Denver wouldn't trade him. "(Cutler) has been the guy who they've been saying could be the next (John) Elway perhaps. (Trade rumors) are always a tough situation because you don't know where it's coming from, who's saying it, if it's true, if it's false. That was my big thing this summer. Just let me know, so I can get my mind off thinking about where it's coming from and who's saying it and who's not saying it."

With players, understandably, there is a respect factor involved. The fact that their team would consider a trade can be insulting and humbling. But, as Nuggets coach George Karl said: "Jay's got to understand there have been a lot greater players than him that have been talked about in trades. When the contracts are so big, every player is probably discussed."

Karl was critical of Cutler's comments to The Denver Post, when the quarterback said: "I don't play for the coaches anyway; I play for teammates."

Said Karl: "That comment is way out of control. . . . I don't think that sits with the team concept."

Sometimes, as Anthony can relate to, there is a temporary feeling of betrayal. But, again, this is the business they chose.

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

Has the "boss" said anything to the media other than denying the trade talk happened? Has McDaniels refused to talk about the scenario because he just wanted to "lay low" (while whining to the media at the same time)?

You still don't get it, it's McDaniels job to keep lines of communication open.

Originally Posted by SuperCharged!!!

Bunch of Whiners!!! LOL @ YOU ALL!

Cutler is a bum. We will own you again in 09~

Buzz off.

Players getting pissed at coaches is nothing new...Chiefs new HC pissed off Brian Waters last week and now he is wanting out of KC...great...

Originally Posted by KCL

Players getting pissed at coaches is nothing new...Chiefs new HC pissed off Brian Waters last week and now he is wanting out of KC...great...

Todd Haley is a dick.

Originally Posted by TXBRONC

You still don't get it, it's McDaniels job to keep lines of communication open.

If Jay refuses to talk, what is McDaniels suppose to do?

I can just see it now. McDaniels and Xanders sitting outside of Cutler's house throwing pebbles at the window. "Please come out, Jay".

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

Todd Haley is a dick.

I guess him and McDaniels have something in common.

Originally Posted by claymore

Xanders and Mcdaniels have done nothing but alienate players, and bring in shit free agents. That doesnt take maturity.

Fly out and settle down your young star QB and say "Im sorry, I screwed up". That takes maturity.

Just which players are you talking about with this tidbit " done nothing but alienate players" Mike leach? is about the only situation I did not agree with.. Jay well he is a drama queen that can't keep his mouth shut..

That is the agents job to settle his QB down and tell him to keep his yap shut..

They asked for a meeting and he declined to come to it.. I'll even bet they would have sent Pats Jet for him..

The extended their hand to talk he just decided to whine some more..

Who is the boss who is the employee?

If some moron did that to me I'd fire his ass so fast it take a week for the paperwork to catch up to him..


As for bringing in "and bring in shit free agents. "

perhaps there is more to this than you can comprehend.. the defense was in total shambles and the O needed work.. they have a limited budget..

Maybe they have a plan that will become apparent in the next few months..

Until he does something really stupid like trying to fire Pat he has my backing..


I'm guessing that many folks who have never supervised employees and have never owned a business and had to work within budgets will never get it..

http://espn.go.com/

WOW! Congratulations. Thanks to Jay you guys are front page news again...

"Jay Cutler's whining about a trade that didn't happen reflects badly on a QB who hasn't won anything"

Originally Posted by CoachChaz

If Jay refuses to talk, what is McDaniels suppose to do?

I can just see it now. McDaniels and Xanders sitting outside of Cutler's house throwing pebbles at the window. "Please come out, Jay".

Megaphones, my man, you gotta use the megaphones

as I'm thinking about it....this reminds me of the rifts between Phil Simms and Bill Parcells (since McD has a thin linking to him) it seems to have the makings for it,,,,,

Originally Posted by Gamechanger

as I'm thinking about it....this reminds me of the rifts between Phil Simms and Bill Parcells (since McD has a thin linking to him) it seems to have the makings for it,,,,,

Or...


wait for it...


















John Elway and Dan Reeves.