Thread: Profootball Focus....how did we really do against Pitt???

so as a premium member at PFF i have access to quite a few stats that really grade our players in a unbiased format...with that in mind I wanted to see how we did against Pitt and what were the true underlying performances......

OFFENSE-

Great-
Tim Tebow

Good-
Demaryius Thomas
Zane Beadles

Avg-
Orlando Franklin
Eddie royal
Dante Rosario
Daniel Fells
Lance Ball
Jeremiah Johnson
Matt willis
Tony Hills

Bad-
JD walton
Ryan Clady
Eric decker(poor guy on the injury)
Russ Hochstein
Virgil Green
Chris Clark

Horrible-
Mcghaee(his worst graded game of the year)



DEFENSE

Great-
Robert Ayers
Von Miller
Champ Bailey

Good-
Brodrick Bunkley

Avg-
Dumervil
Goodman
Carter
Bruton
Unrein
Haggan
Bush
Harris
woodyard

Bad-
Hunter

Horrible-
Mays(worst game of the year from him, he missed 7 tackles in 1 game)
Marcus Thomas
Ryan Mcbean





Also some season side notes about the OL and WR's, QB and Von miller

OL overall rankings- ranked 31 of 32 in pass blocking/ranked 30 of 32 in run blocking

Clady- ranked 66 out of 76 graded tackles
Beadles- ranked 74 out of 77 graded guards
Walton- ranked 35 out of 35 graded centers
Kuper- ranked 57 out of 77 graded tackles
Franklin- ranked 47 out of 76 graded tackles

WR Rankings-

DT- Graded 57 out of 115 Graded Wr's
Decker- Graded 90 out of 115 Graded Wr's
lloyd(gone but for fun)- Graded 24 out of 115 Graded Wr's
Gaffney(gone but for fun)- Graded 25 out of 115 graded Wr's
Royal- Graded 106 out of 115 Graded wr's
Willis- Graded 63 out of 115 Graded Wr's

Qb Rankings

Tebow- Graded 30 out of 38 Qb's
Orton(gone but for fun)- Graded 23 out of 38 Qb's



Also Von miller had the highest overall LB ranking period hands down, 62 total pressures(12.5 sacks, 20 Qb hits, 30 pressures)this year(ranked 9th overall as a pass rusher in the 3-4/4-3) and the highest run defense ranking #1 for a LB in the 4-3 or 3-4. He also is the Only LB in the NFL 3-4 or 4-3 scheme not to miss a tackle period!....thats insane.....


to conclude our offense is young and needs work, but we are on a upswing and finishing tough as a Unit! Good to see as we can use the momentum going into next off-season. Our defense has some power pieces and some 2nd and 3rd year players making strides, but we still need to attend to some areas with legit depth......Also Von miller should hands down be rookie of the year......

I thought Clady did very good making Harrison pretty much a non factor in the game. What did I miss?

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I thought Clady did very good making Harrison pretty much a non factor in the game. What did I miss?

his run blocking grade was putrid....

thanks for the info buddy!

And yet clady is in the PB.
Would be nice if there'd be an explanation on how they graded out the pitt game. DT "good"? And i musta missed JJohnson. Royal just "avg" after his td catch?

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Originally Posted by rcsodak

And yet clady is in the PB.
Would be nice if there'd be an explanation on how they graded out the pitt game. DT "good"? And i musta missed JJohnson. Royal just "avg" after his td catch?

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its well known this was a bad year for clady........

as for the scale=

0.0-(-1.0)= poor, -1.0-(-3.0)=bad, -3.0 or worse= Horrible...0.0-1.0= Avg, 1.0-3.0= good, 3.0 or above=great

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I thought Clady did very good making Harrison pretty much a non factor in the game. What did I miss?

I saw harrison get faked out a lot during the game and take horrible angles on trying to contain tebow.

Jeremiah Johnson and Eddie Royal both had average performances?

One caught a fantastic circus TD catch and the other... I'm not sure if I saw him on the field.

Not trying to shoot the messenger, I appreciate you sharing, but these overall offensive line grades are absurd.

We had the best rushing team in the league. Phil Simms said on Inside the NFL last night that he thought the Broncos were on the verge of having the best OL in the league. You're telling me that Ryan Clady is one of the worst tackles in the league this year? And that as an aggregate we graded out as the 3rd worse run blocking team? That is clearly inaccurate and doesn't even pass the common sense test.

Originally Posted by Buff

Not trying to shoot the messenger, I appreciate you sharing, but these overall offensive line grades are absurd.

We had the best rushing team in the league. Phil Simms said on Inside the NFL last night that he thought the Broncos were on the verge of having the best OL in the league. You're telling me that Ryan Clady is one of the worst tackles in the league this year? And that as an aggregate we graded out as the 3rd worse run blocking team? That is clearly inaccurate and doesn't even pass the common sense test.

uh yeah thats exactly what I'm saying.....Clady has been horrible this year in comparison to what we expect.....phil simms is a talking head not a stat site that spends 24 hours a day analyzing game tape from coaches.....he sees what fans see, which is never the big picture....

Originally Posted by Buff

Not trying to shoot the messenger, I appreciate you sharing, but these overall offensive line grades are absurd.

We had the best rushing team in the league. Phil Simms said on Inside the NFL last night that he thought the Broncos were on the verge of having the best OL in the league. You're telling me that Ryan Clady is one of the worst tackles in the league this year? And that as an aggregate we graded out as the 3rd worse run blocking team? That is clearly inaccurate and doesn't even pass the common sense test.

actually its very easy to see mcghaee who is 3rd in the NFL in yds after contact and tebow make the OL look better than they are in the run game, its why when ball is in there its more like runinng into a wall.......not to mention our scheme and misdirection is a big factor.....whats funny is the grades are similar to last year when we couldnt run the ball with buck and moreno and a spread.....change the runner and Qb, and scheme and hey imagine that....doesnt mean its the OL being elite....

Originally Posted by chazoe60

I thought Clady did very good making Harrison pretty much a non factor in the game. What did I miss?

he did fine in pass protection, but he was horrible in run blocking he allowed 5 LOS stops thats bad.....

Originally Posted by wayninja

Jeremiah Johnson and Eddie Royal both had average performances?

One caught a fantastic circus TD catch and the other... I'm not sure if I saw him on the field.

he was in for 3 plays....he blocked on all 3....his grade was +0.6...HAHAHA

also eddie had 3 catches for 30 some yds and The TD, his catch rating was good....his blocking grade not so much, it was bad which makes his overall game average....this site is big picture in all facets of your job during a game to include penalties.....

Originally Posted by Phidelt218

I saw harrison get faked out a lot during the game and take horrible angles on trying to contain tebow.

exactly more tebow then clady...its just how it is....

Originally Posted by Elevation inc

actually its very easy to see mcghaee who is 3rd in the NFL in yds after contact and tebow make the OL look better than they are in the run game, its why when ball is in there its more like runinng into a wall.......not to mention our scheme and misdirection is a big factor.....whats funny is the grades are similar to last year when we couldnt run the ball with buck and moreno and a spread.....change the runner and Qb, and scheme and hey imagine that....doesnt mean its the OL being elite....

there's a lot of middle ground between one of the worst OLs in the league and "elite". Seems silly to say that McGahee broke so many tackles that his team lead the league in rushing.

It just doesn't make sense. "...our scheme and misdirection..." guess what, it takes OL doing their job to make schemes and misdirection work.

Now I'm not saying I think our OL is the best in the league, but easily middle of the pack at worst. I know you're paying good money to access those stats, but imo you're being ripped off. You'd be better off just watching the games yourself and actually seeing what the OL is doing. To each their own though.