Thread: New Rules: Final Opportunity for comment before going into effect on Feb 21st

Originally Posted by Tned

The first two paragraphs of the statement they agree to during registration is:


In addition, the statement next to the check box they must check says:

I thought you were banned. Im going to have to talk to management.

Originally Posted by topscribe

Well then, there is not a person joining this board who has any excuse . . .

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I would certainly think that is the way it should be

Originally Posted by deacon

By the same token if there were'nt rules like this I would not be a member of this board. So the score is 1-1.

Yea, i agree. Ive often stated how i like that this board is different than the Freak, Nation, and the Mane. The Mane allows just about anything yet some who stay here dont move to that board for one reason or another. But, the fact that BF is different and that it actually cares about the member's input and overall feeling is what separates itself from other boards.

So anyway can I get a ruling on my avatar?

Thanks for keeping the forums football related.

Without the express written consent of NFL football you can't post links to streamed games. One of the rules states no links to illegal activity. Can we get a clarification as to if posts concerning links to the game streams will be deleted?

Originally Posted by claymore

I thought you were banned. Im going to have to talk to management.

Dammit Clay..that's TOP secret. I was hoping to keep that on the DL. Now I get the

Thanks a lot buddy.

Originally Posted by Tned

Ok, pending any changes that come from the final open discussion period of the next seven days, these rules will go into effect on February 21st.

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This is a community. That means that we are many different people making up a single entity. Respect other members of the community and don’t belittle, make fun off, or insult another member. If you feel a post violates a rule, don’t retaliate, report the post.

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BroncosForums.com Posting Rules:

1. No discussion about how to conduct illegal activity, including posting links to sites that discuss such activity.

2. No Flaming, baiting or harassing. Regardless of whether you like a poster or a point being made, do not resort to flaming and harassing that poster. Don’t post “flame-bait”. That is a post just to irritate members or designed to get a reaction from another poster. This type of posting behavior will be dealt with in much the same manner as personal attacks.

3. No threats, name calling, ethnic or racist remarks, gender harassment or other type of posts that attack another poster or posters.

4. No use of obscene or indecent language, obscene or indecent photos, or links to obscene language or photos, or anything that would be considered offensive to most people may be posted. Since it is difficult to define what is 'obscene or indecent' or what will offend most people, the 'benchmark' that will be used is Prime time Network TV. If the FCC does not allow it on Prime Time Network TV, it is not allowed on BroncosForums.com. -- Note: final decisions on what is or is not obscene will be made by the moderators and the admins.

Note: The exception to this rules is that more adult orientated language and risqué images (NOT nudity) are allowed in The Lounge (see stickied threads in that forum for specifics).

5. Censored Words: If a word is censored, meaning if you type a word that the message board automatically replaces with ****, it is NOT allowed to to use characters like !, @, etc. to get around the profanity filter, nor can you add a smiley to the end of a censored word or use any other trick to get around the profanity filter.

It is allowed for a member to type a censored word and let the profanity filter substitute **** for it. This will be seen as the equivalent of beeping or bleeping out bad words on TV/radio.

Acronyms that are allowed: WTH, WTF, FUBAR, SNAFU, LMAO, LMFAO, ROFLMAO, ROFLMFAO, BS, SOB

Acronyms that are not allowed: S.T.F.U., F.U.

This guideline will not list specific words that have been approved or disapproved. If the profanity filter replaces a word with ****, do not use any variation of that word, nor alter it to get it past the filter. If a moderator tells you a word or word variation is not allowed, do not use it.

Note: The exception to this rules is that circumventing the filter is acceptable in The Lounge (see stickied threads in that forum for specifics).

6. Avatars and Signatures: You may not have obscene or sexually explicit images in your avatars or signatures. Again, the Primetime Network TV test will be used as to whether or not it is acceptable.

Only Positive political or Religious signatures or avatars will be permitted -- final determination as to whether a political/religoius signature or avatar is 'positive' will be made by the moderators and admins.

Images must conform with non opt-in standards -- final determination as to whether a signature or avatar image is to explicit will be made by the moderators and admins.


7. Use of Multiple user names is not Permitted – You have signed up with a user name, and that is the only one that should be registered. Posting under multiple user names will result in all user names being banned.

8. No advertising – No links (including in signatures) intended to advertise or posts intended to advertise are permitted. If in doubt, request approval first.

Some exceptions will be made for non-commercial sites, but approval must be sought from an administrator prior to posting.

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This cannot be stressed enough. If you are going to participate in P&R, you must have thick skin and NOT resort to personal attacks when others disagree with you.

While staying on topic is always important, it is ‘essential’ in P&R. Many posters participating in P&R consider the discussions and debates very serious, do not make jokes or derail the threads with off topic remarks.

Carrying P&R grudges into the main forums will NOT be tolerated and will at minimum result in the loss of P&R privileges.

11. Negative PM's and MHS messages: It is not allowed to use private messages and MHS messages to send negative or nasty messages. These will not be tolerated and swift action will be taken by moderators.

12. Reporting posts: It is every member's responsibility to report posts that violate these rules. It should never be assumed that a moderator reads every post. Instead, the moderators rely heavily on the community policing itself by reporting posts, PMs and MHS messages that violate the rules.

It is NEVER acceptable for a forum member to "take matters into his/her own hands" and deal with another member who has violated the rules by attacking that poster. If you see a post that violates the rule, your ONLY course of action is to report the post, not to retaliate and 'fix it' yourself.

No matter how well meaning, any poster that attacks another for any reason will be dealt with the same. Report, don't retaliate.

As a member of this community, you have a responsibility to BroncosForums. That includes both following the rules and reporting those that do not.

Ok, everyone has been so focused on the political sigs/avvies, we haven't had much discussion about the 11 points in the rules. There are a couple days left to get input.

By and large, these rules are a consolidating and simplification of the two sections that exist in the current rules, with the addition of rules 11 and 12 -- nastygrams via MHS and the communities responsibility to report posts to help the mods do their job.

Also, based on how I think the rule will be set, I have modified the signature rule to state only positive political and relgious sigs will be allowed.

Originally Posted by Tned

The new member aspect is only one part of it. It certainly is a consideration, but not the only one, or even the primary. It is an area (negative political threads) that I receive many complaints about, and create a lot of confict in and out of P&R. We need to keep P&R feuds from spilling into the other forums as they result in more moderator time than any other, and if anything impact the ability to police other issues.

I understand what you're saying but I think most of the reporting crap just stems from people who do not like certain people.I have read post that proves that.

Yea P and R should stay there but a person's P or R sig being seen in a football thread shouldn't even be an issue.IMO it's more a personal thing more then people actually being offended.

Tned I made a thread about Derrick Thomas in the other NFL teams forum...there were a couple of people who added nothing but BS as if it was in the smack forum.I know this is off topic but where do you draw the line as far as stuff spilling into other forums.

Originally Posted by KCL

I understand what you're saying but I think most of the reporting crap just stems from people who do not like certain people.I have read post that proves that.

Yea P and R should stay there but a person's P or R sig being seen in a football thread shouldn't even be an issue.IMO it's more a personal thing more then people actually being offended.

Tned I made a thread about Derrick Thomas in the other NFL teams forum...there were a couple of people who added nothing but BS as if it was in the smack forum.I know this is off topic but where do you draw the line as far as stuff spilling into other forums.

I moved your post here, because it is really more about general rules/conduct than it is about sigs.

On the Derrick Thomas thread. It was discussed at length by the mods. It was decided that while the responses were via 'images' they were related to Thomas.

I don't know, it's a tough call. On the one hand mods are harrassed for over-modding and we have pages of people saying we have too many rules already, but on the other hand 'where' should the mods draw the line on what is 'off topic', trolling, etc.

The off-topic, spamming, trolling thing is very far reaching, and it is very hard for the mods to know where to draw the line as to 'what' really is spamming/trolling and off topic. It seems everyone has a different opinion.

Originally Posted by Tned

I moved your post here, because it is really more about general rules/conduct than it is about sigs.

On the Derrick Thomas thread. It was discussed at length by the mods. It was decided that while the responses were via 'images' they were related to Thomas.

I don't know, it's a tough call. On the one hand mods are harrassed for over-modding and we have pages of people saying we have too many rules already, but on the other hand 'where' should the mods draw the line on what is 'off topic', trolling, etc.

The off-topic, spamming, trolling thing is very far reaching, and it is very hard for the mods to know where to draw the line as to 'what' really is spamming/trolling and off topic. It seems everyone has a different opinion.

I cannot believe what I have just read here.Yes they were related to DT but it had absolutely NOTHING to do with him getting into the HOF...and there weren't just images posted.

I guess your Mods and yourself see things ALOT differently than I do.It was BS what was posted.My post was in the other NFL teams forum not the smack forum which is what the images and post were.

I see how things are here.I am a Chiefs fan so it's okay to just go ahead and crap all over my thread.Is that how it is because that is the message I am getting here.

Originally Posted by KCL

I cannot believe what I have just read here.Yes they were related to DT but it had absolutely NOTHING to do with him getting into the HOF...and there weren't just images posted.

I guess your Mods and yourself see things ALOT differently than I do.It was BS what was posted.My post was in the other NFL teams forum not the smack forum which is what the images and post were.

I see how things are here.I am a Chiefs fan so it's okay to just go ahead and crap all over my thread.Is that how it is because that is the message I am getting here.

KCL, I had you on the advisory board when it was in existance. I'm a little blown away by that reaction. I do and have always considered you just as important as any other poster here.

Originally Posted by Tned

KCL, I had you on the advisory board when it was in existance. I'm a little blown away by that reaction. I do and have always considered you just as important as any other poster here.

You're blown away...did you not read what I posted about my thread.You know I guess it's better to not even say anything anymore...right?

Originally Posted by KCL

You're blown away...did you not read what I posted about my thread.You know I guess it's better to not even say anything anymore...right?

I think it shows more that most threads are allowed to be crapped on. It's a hard thing to mod.

If they've allowed it in the Town Hall to the extent they have... what thread is safe?

I'm not attacking the mods decisions or KCL's thread here for the record. Both sides are valid in my mind.

Originally Posted by LordTrychon

I think it shows more that most threads are allowed to be crapped on. It's a hard thing to mod.

If they've allowed it in the Town Hall to the extent they have... what thread is safe?

I'm not attacking the mods decisions or KCL's thread here for the record. Both sides are valid in my mind.

One person's fun and joking, is another person's "crapping on". As I said, I don't think there is a more difficult thing to define than spamming/trolling/crapping in threads.

If it is a completely off topic hijacking of 'banter' is it ok, but if it is a picture it isn't? People used to have running jokes about how certain posters hijacked threads. Was that trolling, or only when pictures or the wrong people do it?

Personally, I find almost all blatantly off topic posts annoying, but I know that many, many people don't see it the same way.

It is not a simple matter, unless we are going to simply say nothing off topic is allowed.

Originally Posted by Tned

One person's fun and joking, is another person's "crapping on". As I said, I don't think there is a more difficult thing to define than spamming/trolling/crapping in threads.

If it is a completely off topic hijacking of 'banter' is it ok, but if it is a picture it isn't? People used to have running jokes about how certain posters hijacked threads. Was that trolling, or only when pictures or the wrong people do it?

Personally, I find almost all blatantly off topic posts annoying, but I know that many, many people don't see it the same way.

It is not a simple matter, unless we are going to simply say nothing off topic is allowed.

I agree. Again, I wasn't trying to comment on how it's been handled... only used the terminology I did because it was obvious that was how KC felt about her thread. If she feels it's out of place there, I simply think that she should also feel that it's out of place everywhere... rather than think it's an indictment of the staff's opinion of her... because it certainly hasn't been just that one thread.

I was just trying to say she wasn't being singled out, I guess.