Thread: McDaniels' influence still felt in Denver

Great read by Adam Schefter!

Call him McFired, McStupid . . . whatever you want, but a big reason the
Broncos are winning today is because of what Josh McDaniels brought to us
before he was shown the door . . .

McDaniels' influence still felt in Denver

Long before Denver, the NFL, fans and television networks invested in Tim
Tebow, former Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels did.

McDaniels believed in Tebow more than any other coach or team in the NFL.
He envisioned what he could do for a franchise. It was just that McDaniels
also envisioned being a part of it.

Yet before he could get his chance, the Broncos fired McDaniels on Dec. 6,
2010, two weeks before Tebow made his first career start as Broncos
quarterback.

McDaniels packed up his belongings but left behind the quarterback he traded
up to get. Since then, Denver has not been the same.

Read the rest of it at ESPN.com

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He didn't walk out the door, he was kicked out.

Originally Posted by chazoe60

He didn't walk out the door, he was kicked out.

Good point. Post edited.

Sounds like this Schefler guy is a McDummy apologist. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the McDummy bandwagon before he was fired.

Originally Posted by TimHippo

Sounds like this Schefler guy is a McDummy apologist. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the McDummy bandwagon before he was fired.

Ummmm.. . . careful there buddy. Schefter is a well revered sports writer in Denver circles. He started his career in Denver before moving up to ESPN, and long before McDummy came along.

y'all can laugh/criticize/hate on me for this but i still think McD has an advanced perspective on football. and by "advanced" i'm going off the "advanced genius theory"; basically, that he thinks ahead of his time and some/most of his ideas are too ahead of their time to be applied or appreciated in the current structures.

that's why the McD offense worked with Brady, someone who's also a bit of an advanced specimen. people like orton can't get it done. i was very eager to see how tebow fit into it (i still think McD was planning a hybrid spread/option offense for tebow).

granted, McD's record here was inexcusable. and his interpersonal skills were a nightmare. but he knew what he was doing. listen to myriad interviews with broncos players and they talk about how he knew more about football than anyone else they'd worked with. also note how they never said they "liked" him.

of course, this is all moot. the broncos are in a better place without him. but i still think he will be a good NFL head coach, someday.

Don't expect any of the McD haters to give him any credit for Tebow despite the fact that he deserves it. He was one of the very few who believed in him back then and he is looking smarter and smarter about that pick week after week. And the recent reports that this Tebow offense this season was created by McD and McCoy last season make him look even better. He may not be the best personnel guy ever but he may have just hit one out of the park with the Tebow pick.

Originally Posted by TimHippo

Sounds like this Schefler guy is a McDummy apologist. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the McDummy bandwagon before he was fired.

Schefter is one of the more respected analysts in football. I don't remember
either his defending or his attacking McDaniels much at all.

Originally Posted by TimHippo

Sounds like this Schefler guy is a McDummy apologist. I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the McDummy bandwagon before he was fired.

um, i'm assuming you're a tebow fan. which is fine. if so, i don't understand why you would despise the coach (McD) who saw tebow as a franchise-saving QB? and this isn't a passive aggressive attack. truly, i'm curious about that perspective.

if you're not a tebow fanboy (i'm going off the "tim" reference in your handle), please ignore the comment.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

And the recent reports that this Tebow offense this season was created by McD and McCoy last season make him look even better.

interesting. i hadn't heard that. can you provide the source material?

Originally Posted by rationalfan

interesting. i hadn't heard that. can you provide the source material?

It was in some thread here. Forget which one. Apparently this entire offense we are running right now was put together last season by McD and McCoy. I think McCoy said that in an interview with a Denver radio host. Not sure which thread I saw it in though.

Originally Posted by rationalfan

y'all can laugh/criticize/hate on me for this but i still think McD has an advanced perspective on football. and by "advanced" i'm going off the "advanced genius theory"; basically, that he thinks ahead of his time and some/most of his ideas are too ahead of their time to be applied or appreciated in the current structures.

that's why the McD offense worked with Brady, someone who's also a bit of an advanced specimen. people like orton can't get it done. i was very eager to see how tebow fit into it (i still think McD was planning a hybrid spread/option offense for tebow).

granted, McD's record here was inexcusable. and his interpersonal skills were a nightmare. but he knew what he was doing. listen to myriad interviews with broncos players and they talk about how he knew more about football than anyone else they'd worked with. also note how they never said they "liked" him.

of course, this is all moot. the broncos are in a better place without him. but i still think he will be a good NFL head coach, someday.

Brady is a bad ass MF'er. Thats why McD and every other OC has been successful with him. Orton is subpar, thats why no one has been successful with him.

McD will eventually wash out of the NFL because he isnt a good OC, and he isnt good with people.

1) Its only been a few games with Teebs. As much as i like the kid and enjoy the recent winning there's still a ways to go before he is deemed a success. There are plenty of QB's who have won a handful of games and some of them arent even in the NFL anymore.

2) McDaniels simply seeing "Something" in Tim doesnt equate to actually knowing how to use him. Im sure the Rams were wondering what happened to that great mind this year. Despite the fact that we are indeed using SOME of what was designed for Tebow via McD its been on record that what Fox is using is only a slight part of it.

The guy is a douche bag / thread.


welcome back top!

Originally Posted by Northman

1) Its only been a few games with Teebs. As much as i like the kid and enjoy the recent winning there's still a ways to go before he is deemed a success. There are plenty of QB's who have won a handful of games and some of them arent even in the NFL anymore.

2) McDaniels simply seeing "Something" in Tim doesnt equate to actually knowing how to use him. Im sure the Rams were wondering what happened to that great mind this year. Despite the fact that we are indeed using SOME of what was designed for Tebow via McD its been on record that what Fox is using is only a slight part of it.

and it was probably belichek who saw something in tebow. Mcd only ramora'd the knowledge from him..