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    Lancane’s Pre-Combine Mock Off-Season

    Free Agency:

    RFA - Gabe Watson - NT - Arizona (4th Round Pick)
    (Secondary option, signing RFA Kedric Golston from Washington)

    Denver trades their fourth overall pick to Arizona for Gabe Watson, Restricted Free Agent Defensive Tackle. Watson gives Denver a big body defensive lineman who can easily fill the nose tackle position in a rotation system. It helps Denver groom a quality nose to eventually start. A lot of fans are not big on giving up a pick in the draft, but chances of a rookie meeting the success of a pro is slim to none.

    UFA - Chris Canty - DE - Dallas

    All signs in Denver are leading to the 3-4 scheme being implemented and a good part of success is having players of quality who fit that role. Denver could make a move for Julius Peppers, but Canty in the end will be the better fit. He will likely be the biggest name signed to the Broncos under the new regime. He will automatically be penciled in as a starter in Denver, and likely be a fan favorite from the moment the ink is dry on the contract.

    UFA - Kenny Peterson - DE - Denver

    Peterson will be the favored Free Agent to return to Denver, he is a perfect fit to be a 3-4 Defensive End and Denver can ill afford to spend top dollar on project players left and right. He will automatically get a chance to earn a starting spot across from Canty against some questionable players on the roster. He is not a long term answer but Denver will likely look to eliminate one need before the draft and this would be a smart move.

    UFA - James Sanders - SS - New England

    There is no denying that Denver’s secondary is hurting, but on the plus side they still have one of the better cornerback duos in the NFL, sadly they are both nearing the term ‘Elderly’…hahaha. Luckily they have time to fix that later as McDaniels and Nolan look to put a competitive team on the field sooner rather then later. Sanders gives them a young starting safety looking to make a name for himself and Denver fans whom have been begging for a quality safety finally get their wish granted.

    NFL Draft:

    Denver will walk into the draft looking at three things: Quality, Intelligence and Depth. The trade to Arizona for Gabe Watson will cause some fans to stir, there is not doubt that many people believe in the hype of B.J. Raji from Boston College and Denver could be in the sweepstakes. I think Denver forgoes the sweepstakes and makes a bold move by trading the 12th overall pick to New England for the 23rd and 47th overall picks. Why? New England nees quality linebackers of youth and a good starting cornerback, they also will still have their original second round pick after the trade. It puts them in a prime spot for Rey Maualuga, Malcom Jenkins, Vontae Davis or James Laurinaitis. Not to mention that several of their free agent are restricted and Cassel could nab them some extra picks as well. So this relatively works out for both teams.

    The Draft…

    Rnd 1. Louis Delmas - FS - Western Michigan
    Originally I thought that Tyson Jackson the LSU standout would be a wise choice here, but if Denver re-signs Peterson and signs Canty, then this would be a great spot to finally fix the rest of their defensive backfield. Delmas is a tremendous talent which was a relative unknown till scouts began to see his potential. His mobility is a plus, but what really excites those who get to see him is his ability to lay wood. This boy could knock someone senseless and Denver has missed that since the loss of All-Pro John Lynch.

    Rnd 2. Clay Matthews - LB - USC
    In my opinion the steal of the linebacker class. Matthews comes from a family with it’s heritage etched in the annals of NFL Football. He is a football player, the type who wants to play ball and thinks about ball and always willing to get better. This is the type of kid who leads defenses and makes them better not only in the lockeroom, but in the clubhouse as well. Clay Matthews will be able to fit a number of roles, be it outside or inside and will excel no matter the difference between positions. I believe he will start on the inside for Denver and likely be a Pro Bowler within his first two seasons.

    Rnd 2. Ron Brace - NT - Boston College
    Underrated, but what is not to like about that. Brace has something to prove after being in the shadow of teammate B.J. Raji and in Denver he will get the chance to prove it quickly, particularly with the rotational system that is fundemental in New England and Denver, though it is a new team it is a design of both, along with a little bit of San Diego and Baltimore…if that does not get you excited, I don’t know what will! Brace will immediately get a shot to challenge for the starting role, but will likely need time to develop behind whatever veteran is inked by the team. In my honest opinion, Ron Brace will be a starter by his third year.

    Rnd 3. Javon Ringer - RB - Michigan State
    Yes, a bit earlier then I would imagine some seeing us take a tailback, but there are reasons behind this pick believe it or not. Ringer will not bedazzle scouts with his speed, but he will impress them with his patience and ability to find the gaps to gain the tough yards. Smart football player who will remind fans of Frank Gore, but has better hands. In a spread formation offense that could be invaluable to the success a team has. He could easily mix it up with Hillis and a few other backs on the roster to give an unstable stable some stability! He also has a leg up, being that both Turner and McDaniels are former Big Ten Coaches themselves, and that Ringer comes from the school where McD began his coaching career.

    Rnd 4. (Traded)
    Gabe Watson trade, if Denver does not trade this would be the idea area to either grab a depth cornerback, receiver…maybe even another linebacker to aid the new 3-4.

    Rnd 5. C.J. Davis - OL - Pittsburgh
    At first I had Sammie Lee Hill in this slot, who I am high on. But then again Denver will be faced with the possibility of two guards hitting the market soon, let alone an aging center. Davis showed his versatility this season moving from guard to center, he is entering the draft as an offensive guard. But the fact that Denver could use the depth and Davis’ versatility and talent are impressive, Denver may draft him to help solidify the most promising offensive line in the NFL.

    Rnd 5. Brandon Swain - OLB/DE - West Texas A&M
    A riser, or so I believe…he will be a mid 5th to 6th round pick. His numbers though against weaker opponents is pretty amazing; 24.5 tackles for a loss, 14 sacks and five forced fumbles. Would be a top ten prospect if he had been in a bigger program, so the pick is worth the risk. Jarvis Moss and Elvis Dumervile will both likely get shots at the outside linebacker position, but they need depth and a possible starter if either one of the two do not fit, enter Swain who is one of the more intriguing late round athletes available.

    Rnd 6. Patrick Turner - WR/TE - USC
    With the implimentation of the new offense in Denver, the fact that Brandon Stokely is nearing retirement and Denver having two quality young starters, Turner could become a major part of the Quarterback friendly offense…at 6-5, 224lbs. Turner has the tangibles to fit well in a spread offense and have a solid career. He will not have a great 40 at the combine, or completely shed everyone in the benchpress…his hands and capability will however get him noticed and Denver in my opinion would be the ideal destination for this young talented kid.

    Rnd 7. Zach Potter - DE - Nebraska
    An intriguing late round product, he had decent numbers this season…not great. A tad on the slow side, could use some bulk and lacks the moves needed to be a great pass rusher. Potter however has the size and upside one would look for in a traditional 3-4 defensive end. A project pick who will need time to develop and will be drafted for depth, but he has raw natural talent worthy of hoping he is more then camp fodder…no doubt he needs some serious weight room time and coaching, but even in a rotational system this kid could be a plus down the road.

    Rnd 7. Brice McCain - CB - Utah
    He will be drafted for depth and for the one key position that he may fit, as a returner and even then it may be as a project pick…but the fact that he is likely to clock a 4.36 forty or better come the combine may be enough to salivate Denver’s new Special Teams Coordinator to beg for the kid, a seventh round pick on a young speedy corner who could help in two areas could be more then worth it…fans should not be expecting too much from him though as he will more then likely become a long-term special teams addition.

    UDFA:

    Brad Jones - LB - Colorado
    Louis Ellis - DT - Shaw
    Nate Swift - WR - Nebraska
    Swayze Waters - PK - UAB
    Mike Pagnotta - SS - Colorado State
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    Just so you know, if we sign Peppers in a 3-4 scheme it's going to play OLB/DE like DaMarcus Ware or Terrell Suggs. Peppers is sick of being a down player in a 4-3.

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    Nicely done Lancane.

    One question: "What do we do if Gabe Watkins signs with some other team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderArmour View Post
    Just so you know, if we sign Peppers in a 3-4 scheme it's going to play OLB/DE like DaMarcus Ware or Terrell Suggs. Peppers is sick of being a down player in a 4-3.
    I still do not see us getting him, though if it happens we are just that much better...lol. But more or less with having to secure Marshall and a few others on the roster. Picking between Peppers to go to a new position or Canty proven in a position, I think you go with Canty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    Nicely done Lancane.

    One question: "What do we do if Gabe Watkins signs with some other team?
    Hard to decide, especially with the lack of quality available...there is a chance we take a couple free agents, maybe we trade a pick to a team for one of the more capable backup tackles who look to fit the 3-4. All in all, I think with the draft as I have it we improve all around, but it will likely not be till after the next draft that we really solidify the offensive and defensive units, especially the defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancane View Post
    Rnd 5. Brandon Swain - OLB/DE - West Texas A&M
    You didn't happen to catch the score of the Abilene Christian University/West Texas A&M game did you? Sorry, but I don't want ANY player from that defensive team on my team. Other than that, I like your trade moves and I like most all of the rest of your picks. One of the better mocks in my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancane View Post
    Hard to decide, especially with the lack of quality available...there is a chance we take a couple free agents, maybe we trade a pick to a team for one of the more capable backup tackles who look to fit the 3-4. All in all, I think with the draft as I have it we improve all around, but it will likely not be till after the next draft that we really solidify the offensive and defensive units, especially the defense.
    I know I sound like a broken record, but still seems to me that our best option is the draft. Raji would be my number one pick if he's available/in reach if Denver wants him. If not him, his team mate Brace would be a nice consolation pick.

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    I'll take Raji IF he falls to us and I'd take Brace if it's no earlier than round 3. I'd rather take my chances finding an option elsewhere that sell the farm to move up or take an overahiever too soon.

    Awesome job, Lancane. If Canty doesnt somehow end up in Denver, I'll be shocked and disappointed. Very good 3-4 DE and a really nice guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachChaz View Post
    I'll take Raji IF he falls to us and I'd take Brace if it's no earlier than round 3. I'd rather take my chances finding an option elsewhere that sell the farm to move up or take an overahiever too soon.

    Awesome job, Lancane. If Canty doesnt somehow end up in Denver, I'll be shocked and disappointed. Very good 3-4 DE and a really nice guy.
    From what I've heard Brace is probably going in the early in the second round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXBRONC View Post
    From what I've heard Brace is probably going in the early in the second round.
    Good...Let him stay there. He's not worth a high 2nd rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancane View Post
    Lancane’s Pre-Combine Mock Off-Season

    Free Agency:

    RFA - Gabe Watson - NT - Arizona (4th Round Pick)
    (Secondary option, signing RFA Kedric Golston from Washington)

    Denver trades their fourth overall pick to Arizona for Gabe Watson, Restricted Free Agent Defensive Tackle. Watson gives Denver a big body defensive lineman who can easily fill the nose tackle position in a rotation system. It helps Denver groom a quality nose to eventually start. A lot of fans are not big on giving up a pick in the draft, but chances of a rookie meeting the success of a pro is slim to none.

    UFA - Chris Canty - DE - Dallas

    All signs in Denver are leading to the 3-4 scheme being implemented and a good part of success is having players of quality who fit that role. Denver could make a move for Julius Peppers, but Canty in the end will be the better fit. He will likely be the biggest name signed to the Broncos under the new regime. He will automatically be penciled in as a starter in Denver, and likely be a fan favorite from the moment the ink is dry on the contract.

    UFA - Kenny Peterson - DE - Denver

    Peterson will be the favored Free Agent to return to Denver, he is a perfect fit to be a 3-4 Defensive End and Denver can ill afford to spend top dollar on project players left and right. He will automatically get a chance to earn a starting spot across from Canty against some questionable players on the roster. He is not a long term answer but Denver will likely look to eliminate one need before the draft and this would be a smart move.

    UFA - James Sanders - SS - New England

    There is no denying that Denver’s secondary is hurting, but on the plus side they still have one of the better cornerback duos in the NFL, sadly they are both nearing the term ‘Elderly’…hahaha. Luckily they have time to fix that later as McDaniels and Nolan look to put a competitive team on the field sooner rather then later. Sanders gives them a young starting safety looking to make a name for himself and Denver fans whom have been begging for a quality safety finally get their wish granted.

    NFL Draft:

    Denver will walk into the draft looking at three things: Quality, Intelligence and Depth. The trade to Arizona for Gabe Watson will cause some fans to stir, there is not doubt that many people believe in the hype of B.J. Raji from Boston College and Denver could be in the sweepstakes. I think Denver forgoes the sweepstakes and makes a bold move by trading the 12th overall pick to New England for the 23rd and 47th overall picks. Why? New England nees quality linebackers of youth and a good starting cornerback, they also will still have their original second round pick after the trade. It puts them in a prime spot for Rey Maualuga, Malcom Jenkins, Vontae Davis or James Laurinaitis. Not to mention that several of their free agent are restricted and Cassel could nab them some extra picks as well. So this relatively works out for both teams.

    The Draft…

    Rnd 1. Louis Delmas - FS - Western Michigan
    Originally I thought that Tyson Jackson the LSU standout would be a wise choice here, but if Denver re-signs Peterson and signs Canty, then this would be a great spot to finally fix the rest of their defensive backfield. Delmas is a tremendous talent which was a relative unknown till scouts began to see his potential. His mobility is a plus, but what really excites those who get to see him is his ability to lay wood. This boy could knock someone senseless and Denver has missed that since the loss of All-Pro John Lynch.

    Rnd 2. Clay Matthews - LB - USC
    In my opinion the steal of the linebacker class. Matthews comes from a family with it’s heritage etched in the annals of NFL Football. He is a football player, the type who wants to play ball and thinks about ball and always willing to get better. This is the type of kid who leads defenses and makes them better not only in the lockeroom, but in the clubhouse as well. Clay Matthews will be able to fit a number of roles, be it outside or inside and will excel no matter the difference between positions. I believe he will start on the inside for Denver and likely be a Pro Bowler within his first two seasons.

    Rnd 2. Ron Brace - NT - Boston College
    Underrated, but what is not to like about that. Brace has something to prove after being in the shadow of teammate B.J. Raji and in Denver he will get the chance to prove it quickly, particularly with the rotational system that is fundemental in New England and Denver, though it is a new team it is a design of both, along with a little bit of San Diego and Baltimore…if that does not get you excited, I don’t know what will! Brace will immediately get a shot to challenge for the starting role, but will likely need time to develop behind whatever veteran is inked by the team. In my honest opinion, Ron Brace will be a starter by his third year.

    Rnd 3. Javon Ringer - RB - Michigan State
    Yes, a bit earlier then I would imagine some seeing us take a tailback, but there are reasons behind this pick believe it or not. Ringer will not bedazzle scouts with his speed, but he will impress them with his patience and ability to find the gaps to gain the tough yards. Smart football player who will remind fans of Frank Gore, but has better hands. In a spread formation offense that could be invaluable to the success a team has. He could easily mix it up with Hillis and a few other backs on the roster to give an unstable stable some stability! He also has a leg up, being that both Turner and McDaniels are former Big Ten Coaches themselves, and that Ringer comes from the school where McD began his coaching career.

    Rnd 4. (Traded)
    Gabe Watson trade, if Denver does not trade this would be the idea area to either grab a depth cornerback, receiver…maybe even another linebacker to aid the new 3-4.

    Rnd 5. C.J. Davis - OL - Pittsburgh
    At first I had Sammie Lee Hill in this slot, who I am high on. But then again Denver will be faced with the possibility of two guards hitting the market soon, let alone an aging center. Davis showed his versatility this season moving from guard to center, he is entering the draft as an offensive guard. But the fact that Denver could use the depth and Davis’ versatility and talent are impressive, Denver may draft him to help solidify the most promising offensive line in the NFL.

    Rnd 5. Brandon Swain - OLB/DE - West Texas A&M
    A riser, or so I believe…he will be a mid 5th to 6th round pick. His numbers though against weaker opponents is pretty amazing; 24.5 tackles for a loss, 14 sacks and five forced fumbles. Would be a top ten prospect if he had been in a bigger program, so the pick is worth the risk. Jarvis Moss and Elvis Dumervile will both likely get shots at the outside linebacker position, but they need depth and a possible starter if either one of the two do not fit, enter Swain who is one of the more intriguing late round athletes available.

    Rnd 6. Patrick Turner - WR/TE - USC
    With the implimentation of the new offense in Denver, the fact that Brandon Stokely is nearing retirement and Denver having two quality young starters, Turner could become a major part of the Quarterback friendly offense…at 6-5, 224lbs. Turner has the tangibles to fit well in a spread offense and have a solid career. He will not have a great 40 at the combine, or completely shed everyone in the benchpress…his hands and capability will however get him noticed and Denver in my opinion would be the ideal destination for this young talented kid.

    Rnd 7. Zach Potter - DE - Nebraska
    An intriguing late round product, he had decent numbers this season…not great. A tad on the slow side, could use some bulk and lacks the moves needed to be a great pass rusher. Potter however has the size and upside one would look for in a traditional 3-4 defensive end. A project pick who will need time to develop and will be drafted for depth, but he has raw natural talent worthy of hoping he is more then camp fodder…no doubt he needs some serious weight room time and coaching, but even in a rotational system this kid could be a plus down the road.

    Rnd 7. Brice McCain - CB - Utah
    He will be drafted for depth and for the one key position that he may fit, as a returner and even then it may be as a project pick…but the fact that he is likely to clock a 4.36 forty or better come the combine may be enough to salivate Denver’s new Special Teams Coordinator to beg for the kid, a seventh round pick on a young speedy corner who could help in two areas could be more then worth it…fans should not be expecting too much from him though as he will more then likely become a long-term special teams addition.

    UDFA:

    Brad Jones - LB - Colorado
    Louis Ellis - DT - Shaw
    Nate Swift - WR - Nebraska
    Swayze Waters - PK - UAB
    Mike Pagnotta - SS - Colorado State
    Would you mind doing a mock with our current picks and not with trade scenarios? Thats more telling of your vision since there is such a lack of certainty we will trade as everyone prescribes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex View Post
    Would you mind doing a mock with our current picks and not with trade scenarios? Thats more telling of your vision since there is such a lack of certainty we will trade as everyone prescribes.
    I'm pretty sure his vision is that we will trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeingRed View Post
    I'm pretty sure his vision is that we will trade.
    RIF. Sometimes you have to read all of it. I know he wants to trade but those trades are not likely to happen. Therefore its more telling if he sticks with what we have to pick with. I mean, I could come up with some elaborate and imaginative scenario where we make a boatload of trades to get every pick in the 4th round, but thats not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeingRed View Post
    I'm pretty sure his vision is that we will trade.
    Yep, Lancane has made it clear as to what he would like to see.

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    Maybe he should have called it his "off-season wish list" Maybe that would have involved less comfusion?

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