Thread: Did anything get answered?

Bullgator - Wayninja steel cage match

on pay per view. . .


yea. . .

make it happen!

Originally Posted by hoptard

Bullgator - Wayninja steel cage match

on pay per view. . .


yea. . .

make it happen!

Sorry to disappoint, but I've already enacted ignore protocol. I only have so much patience for arguing with self admitted Tebow-only fans.

Originally Posted by wayninja

Sorry to disappoint, but I've already enacted ignore protocol. I only have so much patience for arguing with self admitted Tebow-only fans.

oh, come on. . . think of the children!

Originally Posted by hoptard

Bullgator - Wayninja steel cage match

on pay per view. . .


yea. . .

make it happen!

Hes dodging me Hop... like Mayweather is dodging Pacquiao.

Ignore = skurred

Originally Posted by hoptard

oh, come on. . . think of the children!

And the Dung Beetles! They could survive extinction on Way's bullshit indefinitely...

He's making progress, he's getting better by each game u can tell, people say he can't throw the guy has only started 9 games in his whole career,where guys like blaine and bradford that are the typical everything you want qbs still struggling throwing the ball, what do people expect out of tebow a probowler?
How can any qb be good when throwing only on third downs when the whole stadium knows your about to throw, not to mention no one talks about the drop passes he has every single game its ridicolous, dont say the guy cant throw , hes only played 9 games people lol

in regards to the original question, it's almost impossible to say. . .

how will we know?

who here has read dune, or anything political? how does it benefit elway to come right out and endorse tim as our QB, when we can maintain doubt about our intentions in the draft by not doing so?

how many QBs did we scout last year? how many did we draft?


from MY perspective, i said after last week that i was ready to see another year of tebow. . . my gut says that fox and elway feel the same way after seeing the team win, but tim himself will be the first to admit that he still needs to improve quite a bit as a passer. . .

i do think we'll very likely still draft a quarterback at some point, unless the FO is sold on weber as our second developmental prospect, and decides to sign a vet as the third QB. . . but, i would assume that it will probably be a mid-round pick, or even later in a draft that looks pretty deep at the position. . . i'm guessing most reasonable people would agree that tebow has shown enough in terms of intangibles and clutch play to at the very least warrant a full off-season of proper development to see how much his accuracy can come around with some attention to his footwork, and improved timing with his young receivers. . .

at worst, IF his passing doesn't come around and he proves incapable of sustaining the wins, it doesn't exactly set us back that far to pass on a second-tier QB this year. . . it still helps us if we hit on a CB, OL, DL, MLB or RB with our top couple picks. . . we've already won too many games to be in range of the premiere QB prospects this year, with all the QB-needy teams ahead of us. . . nothing wrong with drafting a guy at some point to provide competition, and/or be groomed as a backup. . . but i'd rather take the best athlete on our board with our first few picks this year. . . if tim ultimately flops, maybe we'll be in better draft position for a legit blue chip prospect-- or, maybe we make a trade for a player like matt flynn, the way houston acquired schaub. . .

no way to know for sure, but despite what may be said between now and draft time, i kinda suspect the FO feels the same way. . . tough decision-- tebow's unconventional style isn't the easiest to embrace as an exec, because the question will always be there as to just how far you can go playing that way. . . it will be an open question until it's been proven conclusively one way or the other. . .


hey, at least it's a lot more entertaining than ****in' ortonball!

The dropped passes stand out when it's Tebow because he just doesn't throw much. IMHO 15 has show some improvement in his throws and his decision making. I actually don't cringe when he sets up in the pocket because I'm pretty confident that if the coverage is there he won't throw it.
That being said, I've seen a number of times when the coverage has allowed for a high % pass and Tebow just hasn't seen it develop or hesitates too long. I do see improvement in his overall passing game though.

Originally Posted by hoptard

how does it benefit elway to come right out and endorse tim as our QB, when we can maintain doubt about our intentions in the draft by not doing so?

from MY perspective, i said after last week that i was ready to see another year of tebow. . . my gut says that fox and elway feel the same way after seeing the team win, but tim himself will be the first to admit that he still needs to improve quite a bit as a passer. . .

hey, at least it's a lot more entertaining than ****in' ortonball!

I'd say Hoptard pretty well nailed it.

There were 2 passes dropped on critical 3rd downs that were right in the receivers hands. This was Tebow's best day as a passer by far this season.

Tebow looks like he is going to be fine. Hopefully we can use early draft picks on other needs.

I don't think there is any reason to commit to Tebow without seeing how the rest of the season plays out. I don't see any benefit of making any statements as to the future of Tebow one way or the other at this time as there is potential that it will come back and bit you in the ass

On Sirius NFL this morning, Solomon Wilcotts addressed that very question. He said that, obviously, Tebow is the QB for the rest of this season barring injury. In the off season, he expects that Elway will still scout for a QB that can run a more traditional offense. They will still work on improving Tebows throwing and the rookie can push Tebow toward that end. I also think this is what Elway will do.

I am glad that the Broncos found a way to win. Once again, the defense stepped it up and is playing exceptionally well. Tebow has gotten better at passing, but is still missing or not seeing wide open receivers. Two that stood out to me was a miss to a wide open Willis in the end zone. Tebow hits that and the game never goes into overtime. The other was in OT and he had a very open receiver WAVING at him in the middle (can't remember who it was) and Tebow never saw him. If the passing game was better, the Broncos are blowing teams up.

9 of 18 for 143 is not a "decent day." Too many overthrown or not even close balls. The dropped balls were bad though. C'mon receivers, Tebow is under enough scrutiny without you guys dropping balls that he does successfully get to you. Help the guy out will ya?

Still, no style points in the NFL and wins are good.

Originally Posted by Fullback32

On Sirius NFL this morning, Solomon Wilcotts addressed that very question. He said that, obviously, Tebow is the QB for the rest of this season barring injury. In the off season, he expects that Elway will still scout for a QB that can run a more traditional offense. They will still work on improving Tebows throwing and the rookie can push Tebow toward that end. I also think this is what Elway will do.

I am glad that the Broncos found a way to win. Once again, the defense stepped it up and is playing exceptionally well. Tebow has gotten better at passing, but is still missing or not seeing wide open receivers. Two that stood out to me was a miss to a wide open Willis in the end zone. Tebow hits that and the game never goes into overtime. The other was in OT and he had a very open receiver WAVING at him in the middle (can't remember who it was) and Tebow never saw him. If the passing game was better, the Broncos are blowing teams up.

9 of 18 for 143 is not a "decent day." Too many overthrown or not even close balls. The dropped balls were bad though. C'mon receivers, Tebow is under enough scrutiny without you guys dropping balls that he does successfully get to you. Help the guy out will ya?

Still, no style points in the NFL and wins are good.

I am having trouble coming up with more than maybe 1 pass that could be considered way off...which passes are you referring to?

Originally Posted by wayninja

As always, the big question is "will Elway endorse Tebow to be the starter in 2012?"

We know Elway is looking for higher completion percentages and higher 3rd down conversion rates. I think the former was better tonight, but not sure about the latter.

Do you think any headway was made in determining whether or not Elway will feel comfortable with TT leading the team in 2012? Is this another Jets "push" where we win, but it's 'ugly' and we aren't any closer?

Nope not until we are 9-7 if that happens most good QB's in the draft will be gone before we get to them. Also if we get to 9-7 that pretty much forces Elway to stay with TT for next year or at least common sense would dictate that. However I am still waiting on the FO to have common sense as it lost it's senses when they fired Shanny and have lead us down the wrong road for several years since.