Thread: Proof ONE man does make a difference

Proof ONE man does make a difference
Broncos with Orton under center:

1-4 record
Offensive Turnovers: 13
Defensive Turnovers: 5
Rushing Yards per Game: 86 yds
Points Per Game: 18.2


Broncos with Tebow under center:

2-1 record
Offensive Turnovers: 4
Defensive turnovers: 6
Rushing Yards a game: 223yds
Points per Game: 22 pts


I could go and calculate his last three starts last year which would increase all his numbers, but don't have too much time. I think this is clear enough to prove the point.

Sorry, I just don't agree......

And I've got a Tebow Gator jersey and a Tebow Broncos jersey

Originally Posted by lgenf

Sorry, I just don't agree......

And I've got a Tebow Gator jersey and a Tebow Broncos jersey

I can respect that, but can you state the results that defend your opinion?

I think Tim does a surprisingly good job of protecting the football, especially if you consider the pressure he sees on every play. He has certainly done a good job of that. I give us about a ZERO PERCENT chance of beating Oakland today with Kyle Orton at QB, so I think we are better with Tebow, but he needs to keep improving.

Originally Posted by cardoso

I can respect that, but can you state the results that defend your opinion?

Here's the only stat I need to quote to rebut anything written above

9 weeks into the season we looked better than we did week 1

Yea, no surprise here. Orton is worthless. Pretty sure everyone already knows that.

Originally Posted by BroncoStud

I think Tim does a surprisingly good job of protecting the football, especially if you consider the pressure he sees on every play. He has certainly done a good job of that. I give us about a ZERO PERCENT chance of beating Oakland today with Kyle Orton at QB, so I think we are better with Tebow, but he needs to keep improving.

Agreed. I'll take incompletions and sacks over interceptions any day.

The TEAM played better today than I have seen in quite some time.

Tebow did earn us the win vs Miami, but usually I don't like giving all the credit to just one man... this is the BRONCOS after all.

The TEAM has played better with Tim under center... for sure.. And I think he is a big factor in that.... but I also think the coaching staff and team is gelling as well...

Its important that the QB not have to make ALL the plays... we got a big day from everyone today. That tells me the team is growing not just Tebow.

But I dont think KO wins that game today... and we damn sure dont run for 300 yards, and IMO it was the rushing that on the game... even when we were behind.

Originally Posted by camdisco24

The TEAM played better today than I have seen in quite some time.

Tebow did earn us the win vs Miami, but usually I don't like giving all the credit to just one man... this is the BRONCOS after all.

Did u watch that game?

I guess based on the thread title, I was expecting proof of causation, not just correlation.

Tebow has an extremely high ceiling so one things for sure, he's only going to get better in the pocket. One day soon he's going to make defenses pay for putting 8 men in the box.

He makes a huge difference in the running game. On those shotgun, read option plays, it looked like Oakland had two guys (DE and OLB) devoted to Tebow. That hesitation on the reads after Tebow takes the snap opens up a lot more holes for McGahee and Co. in the running game.

Originally Posted by camdisco24

The TEAM played better today than I have seen in quite some time.

Tebow did earn us the win vs Miami, but usually I don't like giving all the credit to just one man... this is the BRONCOS after all.

It's clearly not one player, but it was like Mays or Woodyard or one of the defenseive guys were saying about the 20 yard first down run when backed up at the goal line in Miami. He said the whole defense jumped up and some of them almost ran on the field when he got that first down.

In this game, when Tebow drew the late hit out of bounds that got them a first down and kept the drive alive, Marcus Thomas ran up to him jumping up and down patting him on the back.

There is no way you can say it's all Tebow, but it is clear that he raises the excitement and belief that they can win and that impacts more than just the offense.

Good team win. Offense, Defense and special teams all playing huge roles.

Not sure this would have been the same had Oakland been able to use McFadden.