Thread: The List

how about the dc for the dolphins!

I'd be furious if we hired 3/4 of the names on that list. And I don't think you can replace a hall-of-fame coach with a never-proven offensive coordinator.

Cowher is really the only true even replacement. Anyone else is either unproven or a downgrade.

Will be interesting for sure. Have players in place on offense, just need a healthy back. Guess we will find out really how much Shany was behind the offense next year.

If we bring in a quality front office staff then I don't think you have to worry to much about a young coach, have to start somewhere! Baltimore with Harbaugh, Miami with Sparano, solid front office with a young and or unproven coach.

Originally Posted by muse

I'd go for Spagnolo. I think that our Defensive players fit what he'd like to do.

Would Cowher bring the 3-4 with him? Also as far as I know he likes his power running game which isn't really suited to our O (correct me if I'm wrong). Those two points make me hesistant about bringing him in.

And the fact that Cowher wants complete control of personnel decisions which IMO was one of the main factors in Shanny getting canned. I dont think we go with Cowher.

Originally Posted by LRtagger

And the fact that Cowher wants complete control of personnel decisions which IMO was one of the main factors in Shanny getting canned. I dont think we go with Cowher.

He wants teh ability to bring in people he knows, not full controll at least thats what I understand so far.

To coach in 2009, Cowher must have everything in line. First, he wants big money, possibly $8 million to $9 million a year. Second, he wants the ability to bring some of his people into the front office. Third, he wants to have an established quarterback similar to what he left in Pittsburgh with Ben Roethlisberger.

The Broncos have all three of his needs available -- if the organization can afford him. Jay Cutler is one of the best young quarterbacks in the game. He threw for 4,526 yards this season and earned his first trip to the Pro Bowl.
(From Clayton's artical)

Originally Posted by tomjonesrocks

I'd be furious if we hired 3/4 of the names on that list. And I don't think you can replace a hall-of-fame coach with a never-proven offensive coordinator.

Cowher is really the only true even replacement. Anyone else is either unproven or a downgrade.

enh. . . when shanahan came to denver, HE was an unproven offensive coordinator with a handful of games as a HC under his belt, and that worked out all right-- hell, bill walsh was an unproven coordinator at one point too. . . look what first-time head coaches have done in baltimore, atlanta and miami this year, and atlanta had a first-time GM as well. . .


another name that should be added to the list is mike holmgren. . . reports have it that he will take a year off because he made a promise to his wife and she has his balls in a jar, but you never know. . . he's a west coast guy with ties to the walsh coaching tree, he has a super bowl ring and a recent appearance with another team, and a reputation for developing young QBs. . . not saying that he'd be my choice, but i do think he's another possiblity. . .

I throw my hat into the ring and accept the challenge.

I kick but in Madden Franchise Mode as I ring up Championship every year, I'm in year 2011 of my dynasty and I will apply this knowledge to the position.

Last I heard, Phil Fulmer isn't gonna be busy next fall.

Originally Posted by tomjonesrocks

I'd be furious if we hired 3/4 of the names on that list. And I don't think you can replace a hall-of-fame coach with a never-proven offensive coordinator. Cowher is really the only true even replacement. Anyone else is either unproven or a downgrade.

Personally, I think that's who you have to replace him with. When Shanny was hired, he was the fresh, young genius w/ worlds of potential. Now that he is gone, why hire some retread who will be fired in 1.5 years if we don't win immediately. I'd rather kid some youth a chance to do their own thing.


And Cowher isn't THAT good of a coach.

Originally Posted by SmilinAssasSin27

Last I heard, Phil Fulmer isn't gonna be busy next fall.

NO to Fat Phil!

Originally Posted by dogfish

enh. . . when shanahan came to denver, HE was an unproven offensive coordinator with a handful of games as a HC under his belt, and that worked out all right-- hell, bill walsh was an unproven coordinator at one point too. . . look what first-time head coaches have done in baltimore, atlanta and miami this year, and atlanta had a first-time GM as well. . .


another name that should be added to the list is mike holmgren. . . reports have it that he will take a year off because he made a promise to his wife and she has his balls in a jar, but you never know. . . he's a west coast guy with ties to the walsh coaching tree, he has a super bowl ring and a recent appearance with another team, and a reputation for developing young QBs. . . not saying that he'd be my choice, but i do think he's another possiblity. . .

Shanny was the O-coordinator for the 94 Super Bowl Champion 49ers. He was already a proven offensive master.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

NO to Fat Phil!

Don't hate. I have it on good authority that Phil will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to win games.

Originally Posted by tomjonesrocks

I'd be furious if we hired 3/4 of the names on that list. And I don't think you can replace a hall-of-fame coach with a never-proven offensive coordinator.

Cowher is really the only true even replacement. Anyone else is either unproven or a downgrade.

That is the very reason that this firing has shocked people around the league. On paper, and based on past history, there is no one out there that is the 'equal' to Shanahan, with the possible exception of Cowher.

For that reason, he likely does go with a young offensive coordinator. Everyone else on the market, besides Cowher, are coaches that have failed in one, or more likely, multiple cities.

Short of hiring Alex Gibbs or Cowher, my money is on someone's offensive coordinator. While we clearly need serious help on defense, I think he will want someone offensive minded to get the most out of Cutler, Marshal, Royal, Clady, etc., which is the future of this team. Then, get a defensive coordinator in to focus on the defense.

Lane Kiffen would have been fun. We could have continued the tradition of a HC with a burning hatred for Greasy Al.

I really, absolutely, 100% don't want Cowher. I might be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time, but I have a bad feeling about that. I mean, I'd take him over Denny Green of course, but I don't see it as a winner.

Originally Posted by roomemp

Shanny was the O-coordinator for the 94 Super Bowl Champion 49ers. He was already a proven offensive master.

on bill walsh's team, with a bunch of HOF personnel. . . besides, being proven as a coordinator isn't the same thing as being a proven winner as a head coach-- look at guys like romeo crennel, norv turner, cam cameron, and how many other names could we come up with?