Thread: AFC West about to become the Wild, Wild West?

Has anyone else felt the uncertainty of this organization?

I'm not talking about Orton vs Tebow, or the trading of Lloyd. What I'm talking about is something we might not like thinking about as fans of the Broncos.

Phillip Rivers is in his prime and without question the best quarterback in the division; Oakland is about to acquire Pro-Bowl quarterback, Carson Palmer who is light years ahead of anyone on their roster, they also drafted Terrell Pryor in the supplemental draft who now will get to sit behind someone of quality; Kansas City is in contention for Luck, and if not could still look to add one of the big armed quarterbacks available in the draft behind him; all three teams have some good running backs and are better rushing teams then us, though that's supposedly Coach Fox's forte and better passing teams as well or soon will be. Is anyone else worried that we might be bringing a knife to a gun fight sort-to-speak?

Sorry to be all doom and gloom, but the AFC West looks to be changing and I have to wonder if we'll fit?

TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





sorry I had to go there, figure jag would beat me to it but he didn't lol

Yep.

We are now rebuilding, again, after rebuilding in 2 separate occasions over the last 6 years. That's how bad it is here. This organization, including Pat Bowlen, does not have a clue in the direction they want to go, nor do they have the patience to stand behind the moves they have made. It's pathetic.

It is our turn to be the brunt of NFL jokes for a period of time. SD is going to be around as long as Rivers is. Oakland is undoubtedly headed in the right direction, and has a plethora of young talent.

Garbage in, Garbage out

Originally Posted by Phidelt218

TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





sorry I had to go there, figure jag would beat me to it but he didn't lol

Tebow will be an excellent QB for some other organization after he is purged by this circus act or one.

strange to see silk so gloom-n-doom

I tried to stand firm behind McDaniels over the long haul of what he believed in and was rewarded with cheating, lying, losing, and disappointment. It's a branch of what this organization has produced the last 7-8 years+ IMHO.

I am not going to think any different of it until we have a winning record after week 17.


"I can't hear what you're saying cuz I'm too busy listening to what you're doing."

Originally Posted by silkamilkamonico

Yep.

We are now rebuilding, again, after rebuilding in 2 separate occasions over the last 6 years. That's how bad it is here. This organization, including Pat Bowlen, does not have a clue in the direction they want to go, nor do they have the patience to stand behind the moves they have made. It's pathetic.

It is our turn to be the brunt of NFL jokes for a period of time. SD is going to be around as long as Rivers is. Oakland is undoubtedly headed in the right direction, and has a plethora of young talent.

Garbage in, Garbage out

I think we are in the right direction but go figure we also have a very hard schedule. We lost 3 games but less then a TD. We beat Cinci that is .....4-2. We could easily be 4-1. We had no chance against GB. Our D is drastically better, and our offense was horrible with Orton. But our running game is drastically better too. Our rushing defense is not the strong point in our defense. Our secondary is weak not but we also need more of a pass rush (Doomer needs to step up). OL is getting better, they have some quality back-ups starting. Have you looked at the schedule of the people we have played? They are 22-7, I think so far we have the hardest schedule, which will factor in if we tie with a bunch of loser teams at end of the season.

I think people are missing the point, can Tebow truly succeed in a division that will have high powered quarterbacks?

Or watching us getting dismantled by Palmer, Rivers and possibly Luck, will it cause the fans to turn on Tebow? If we still had Cutler I think we'd be fine, but the fans turned on Plummer even though he was a winner, turned on Orton cause he's a loser...Tebow is on a tight leash with the fans. If Tebow has any shot of succeeding he better become Steve Young (San Fran) instead of Steve Young (Tampa Bay) and quickly or the fans may want to sacrifice him to the football gods.

I guess I just can't see Palmer being a part of the "high octane" of the passing attack. Not until I can actually see that he's back to form from 3 years ago.

As of right now, if he was.... no, Tebow is not a gunner or slinger. He's a runner.

this still isn't a good division. . . two of the four teams are non-competitive, and the chargers are also-rans who are never a serious post-season threat. . . the raiders were stacked with young talent and far better than us before they got palmer-- he's a modest upgrade at best. . . i'm not convinced he's good enough to get them past the chargers. . .

of course, the fact that it's a bad division and we still aren't competitive in it shows just how bad we really are. . . sucks to say it, but the broncos are who we thought they were, and nobody's lettin' us off the hook. . . palmer to oaktown doesn't bother me-- we weren't gonna beat them anyway, unfortunately. . .

The division still only has one pro-bowl caliber QB.

KC is NOT in a position to draft Luck.

Palmer has managed 2 really good years and has been about average the rest of his career.

so......the breaking news is the Broncos need to get better ?
if they want to compete with the other marginally good teams in the AFCW ?
sounds like a plan.....

Originally Posted by slim

The division still only has one pro-bowl caliber QB.

KC is NOT in a position to draft Luck.

Palmer has managed 2 really good years and has been about average the rest of his career.

yep-- we're not exactly the NFC south just yet. . .


of course, that doesn't change the fact that we do need significantly better QB play-- ultimately the goal is to compete with every team for a championship, not just within your division. . . if you want to be a factor in the playoffs, you need either an aaron rodgers-drew brees type, or at least a defense that can beat those guys. . . but just in terms of competing within the division, i'm FAR more scared of AFC west running games than passing games. . .

I have to disagree, not that the West is going to be the next NFC North or anything, but that the division is changing, San Diego has long been able to compete with most of the NFL, problem is that lately they've lost some talent and have had some injury issues. But I find it funny that we're sounding like Charger fans of old talking about the Broncos - "No worries, all they have is a John Elway", when sadly that was enough, but the Chargers have more then Rivers and keep kicking our sorry asses...and Oakland? Campbell was able to lead them to victory over us and most of their opponents, what will Palmer be able to do? I think a lot of people are in for a surprise, because that's what people said about Rich Gannon and he became an All-Pro for Oakland. And while Kansas City is struggling, let us not forget who the General Manager is there, Kansas City is a lot better then people realize they're just missing some key components.

Where are we on the pecking order? Especially if Tebow is more like the next Michael Vick (which I'll puke) then the next Steve Young?

I have to ask, because after what Brandon Lloyd said to ESPN, that Denver only wants to throw the ball twenty or so times a game...are we really going to be able to compete in a pass happy league?

Originally Posted by Lancane

I think people are missing the point, can Tebow truly succeed in a division that will have high powered quarterbacks?

Or watching us getting dismantled by Palmer, Rivers and possibly Luck, will it cause the fans to turn on Tebow? If we still had Cutler I think we'd be fine, but the fans turned on Plummer even though he was a winner, turned on Orton cause he's a loser...Tebow is on a tight leash with the fans. If Tebow has any shot of succeeding he better become Steve Young (San Fran) instead of Steve Young (Tampa Bay) and quickly or the fans may want to sacrifice him to the football gods.

Carson Palmer? Have you watched him play for the past 3 years? He's 1/2 the QB he was early in his career. Injuries have derailed his physical ability.

If you expect Tebow to be Rivers then you are inviting failure and letdown. He isn't. He doesn't have to be. At least we should know by the end of the season where we stand at QB going forward.

I think we have a much better shot at Luck than KC does and they have Cassel under contract. If Tebow turns out to be the guy then all this worry is for nothing. I think he has the ability to do anything we need him to do and he has shown more will and determination to keep Denver competitive than any Denver QB since John Elway, IMO.

I think we're fine with Tebow. If not, keep building the defense. I think if used properly Tebow is a QB that can do things that no other QB in this division can. He may very well end up being the class of the division.