Thread: Raiders and Bengals close to deal to send Palmer to Raiders

I guess Kyle Orton is literally worthless

2 first rounders? wow, how dumb.

Palmer hasn't looked the same since he got hurt. He looked terrible throwing the ball at times last year.

King, set us straight.


He should be an improvement over what they have had, but it might not be worth 2 #1's.

Did they really give up 2 firsts?

yes, a 2012 and 2013

they could have had orton for literally nothing, just take his salary...

his value is 0

A RETIRED qb gets 2 first rounders... LMAO

SOMEONE go check Top for a pulse right now..... he's DYING.. just DYING

2 first, wow!

They will never dig themselves out of the hole if palmer doesnt play any better than campbell did.

i doubt palmer is in football shape and i seriously doubt he does any better than the last few years he was a bungle.


they could have had orton for a 4th in 2026

Originally Posted by slim

Did they really give up 2 firsts?

Here are more specifics:

RT @mortreport: Conditional pick in 2013 is 1st rounder if Raiders win 1 playoff game or it's a 2nd rounder. Still get the 1st rounder next April.

Originally Posted by Tned

Here are more specifics:

RT @mortreport: Conditional pick in 2013 is 1st rounder if Raiders win 1 playoff game or it's a 2nd rounder. Still get the 1st rounder next April.

So it will be a 1st and a 2nd then.

im reading that alot of raider fans dont like the move. most of them are having meltdowns. lol

this has little to do with orton, more to do with hue jackson REALLY wanting palmer. remember, jackson was the receivers coach in cincy for a few years. he got the guy he was familiar with.

Originally Posted by underrated29

The good news is he will more than likely be out of shape and wont know the playbook, but with his arm and all that damn speed the black has. This could be trouble.

he had elbow surgery-- he doesn't have that arm anymore. . .

still a solid player, but the big arm is a thing of the past. . . the fade got assraped on this one. . .

Do the people scared that Palmer will make Oakland legit not remember how Palmer played the past few years in Cincy? He was BAD. Not just mediocre, bad. That combined with his long layoff, I don't see him having any major impact on the Raiders this season.

Originally Posted by Tned

That's how little the league thinks of Orton. Miami was the only interested party before the season, and didn't want to pay him $9 million a year. Now, Raiders could have gotten him for probably a 5th or 6th, and instead get Palmer out of retirement for two firsts.

Funny how someone told me last night Cincy would never give up Palmer. I kind of agreed because usually Brown is a dillweed but getting 2 1sts is awesome for them as they are rebuilding. What Miami's owner said about Orton before cancelling the trade is 100% correct. Orton isnt worth what he was looking for and every team from Arizona-Oakland who needed a QB didnt feel he is a great QB. For those who think that Orton was all that the proof is in the pudding.