
Originally Posted by
zbeg
No, but people are putting the majority of the blame on Orton - and even worse, calling for the guy who had to fight to not be the third string quarterback, as if that's going to make a difference.
Multiple trips to the RZ and we saw, what I said we would see, Orton playing it too safe to protect his contract next year. He wasn't playing to win. He was playing not to lose...money.

Originally Posted by
zbeg
And how do you have rhythm or timing with your receivers? You get time in the pocket.
There were plenty of deep throws where Orton couldn't hit the side of the barn. He had time on those throws. He was the Orton we have always seen.

Originally Posted by
zbeg
but they're still a crappy offensive line.
It's hard to discern precisely how bad they are because Orton under C only makes matters worse. Teams load up and blitz non stop I saw 9 in the box again last night. ANY O line will struggle with that. SD's struggled. Jets struggled. ATL struggled. Pitt.
Like I said last night, gone are the days of nicely formed pockets and clean QB's on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by
zbeg
That's exactly the kind of stuff I'm talking about. The offensive line is getting mauled by the Raiders' front four and people are blaming the quarterback for not having his timing down.
Well it wasn't a valid excuse for Quinn and TT in the preseason, so why should it be for Orton now?
Orton had easy street in the PS and we tried pointing that out. We tried to tell people that Quinn and TT earned playing time with the #1's for their performances. It would have been good to see Orton in a similar situation in the PS.
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