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    I've really been into the Greek war movies lately. I recently saw troy and really liked it. It spurred me to look into Greek mythology and all of that, Helen of Troy (schwing), Achilles (Schwing schwing), Paris, etc. anyway, I saw the 300 again recently for the umpteenth time and was wondering why the arrows stuck in the shield. what was the shield made of. Also, it appears that the phalanx was the predecessor to tank warfare. Am I accurate in this statement Dread? I know that you are somewhat of a military history geek so I thought of you while watching these movies.

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    Where did this come from? Great thread, Nut.

    here's my military history story for the day...


    1526. The Turks are invading Europe with over 100,000 men led by Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent. Target for starters is Hungary, led by the useless and weak King Louis. Louis belatedly realizes he is in deep shit, and sends out the calls for help to the rest of Christendom

    The messages arrive in the German city of Speyer, where Lutheran states and Catholic states are arguing hammer and tongs over theology, and where the Emperor Charles V (ruler of pretty much everything) is trying to defend Catholicsim, while the Pope tries to stab him in the back because he is too powerful, and the French are secretly in cahoots with the Pope, and also have a secret treaty with the Muslim Turks...

    ...Anyways. It is agreed upon after a month worth of deliberations that an Army must certainly be sent to Hungary. And the size of this army, and the money each state will contribute to raise the Army, will be all established by a multinational Commission, which will study what is to be done and come up with a series of binding recommendations, after which the work of actually raising all this money for the Army can begin.

    Bottom line was the battle of Mohacs. 24,000 Hungarians troops fought, of whom 22,000 are killed in action, and the 2,000 POW's had their heads put on poles by the Muslims around the Sultan's tents. King Louis of Hungary drowned trying to flee the battlefield. Arguably its why Hungary became a Central European backwater to this day rather than being a playa on the World scene

    So much for Commissions and binding recommendations...
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    Do this every day Dread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Do this every day Dread!
    I will have to work up a narrative of the Battle of Fraustadt in 1706. The Swedes gave a Saxon-Polish Army a thorough country ass-whupping. Think of the beatings we used to put on the Raiders back in our golden era. I'll dedicate that one to El Cid
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    Line up Tannenberg too. There are also some good ones from the second Punic War.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottokar Prohaska View Post
    Line up Tannenberg too. There are also some good ones from the second Punic War.
    Teutoberger Forest? 9 A.D? "Quintus Varus, Give Me Back My Legions!" Mad potential there.
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    Dreadnought, do the one where I bankrupted a Golden Carrel buffet!
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    Dread what are your thoughts on the Dresden bombing? Over the top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Dread what are your thoughts on the Dresden bombing? Over the top?
    Dresden was justified. that murdering SOB

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Dread what are your thoughts on the Dresden bombing? Over the top?
    Yeah. Strategic bombing was mostly a waste of effort and resources. All that manpower and material could have been used for better purposes.
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    Man I read a piece on Dresden. We really poured it on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefStew25 View Post
    Man I read a piece on Dresden. We really poured it on them.
    Sure did. All for no purpose, too.

    Even 4 engine bombers could be used for tactical support. We pretty much destroyed the Panzer Lehr Division in Normandy with carpet bombing - now that was a good use of air power, not burning down a city.
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