Thread: ESPN: 5 Overrated Players (2 Broncos)

**** ESPiN! they know where they can stick their metrics. . . .

Dude, if you seriously think that Marshall in his third year is better than Fitz, who need I remind you, plays for the CARDINALS, I won't even bother talking football with you any more. Against Miami, Fitz had SIX catches for about the same amount of yards as Marshall had with 18. Come on dude. Fitz is the poop. Take your orange and blue glasses off for a minute. Marshall has been in the league for three years. He's not the best in the league and there are about a half dozen receivers in the leage that are probably better than he is; maybe not statistically this year, but still better. Be realistic...

Originally Posted by Italianmobstr7

So is Marshall... How many 18 catch games has Larry Fitzgerald had?

I really think you're failing to grasp the whole idea of "over-rated.'

Over-rated is, and especially in this case, not being quite as good as your stats indicate...

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

I really think you're failing to grasp the whole idea of "over-rated.'

Over-rated is, and especially in this case, not being quite as good as your stats indicate...

Thank you. They aren't saying that people think he's great and he's not, they are saying that he is really good, but people already think he's great and he's not living up to that hype just yet. Once he learns how to use his body better and quits dropping the damn ball, he'll be up there again. He needs to quit his shit too. I'm a big fan of class, and when I saw the highlight of him reaching in his pants to pull out that glove, I just wanted to scream. I'm glad Stokely and Scheffler were there to stop him. He'll grow up some day...

He is as good as his stats indicate. That's why he's not overrated. A couple of bad games, don't make you not a great player. TO has had a horrible season, but nobody doubts his abilities. Maybe Marshall needs to prove it longer before some of you believe that he's top 5 or the best, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Larry Fitz is a beast SR, but at this point, I'd still take Marshall over him. Marshall is younger, and has more potential IMO. Marshall has the skills to be one of the best WR's of all time. We'll see if he develops into it. He's already becoming one of the best in the league. Maybe he needs to do it for a longer time, but by the end of next season, there will be no doubt that he's one of the best.

They're right, stats don't tell the whole. For instance, how we haven't had a semblance of a running game after those first games.

okay, just to play devil's advocate, what can fitz do that marshall can't?

is he faster? quicker? bigger? stronger? does he run better routes? have better body control? better leaping ability? track the ball over his shoulder better? run better after the catch? block better? is he tougher on underneath routes? read defenses better and make better adjustments when he's the hot receiver? shield defenders from the ball better? fight harder for it in traffic? is he more durable, more competitive or mentally tougher? is he better at finding the sof spots in zones? something else?


personally, i don't see any tools in fitzgerald's bag that marshall doesn't have. . . other than the fact that he's been in the league two more years, and is more polished, mature and consistent. . . and he has an experienced, veteran QB with a league MVP to his name throwing him the ball, instead of a very talented up-and-comer. . . if fitz is more reliable right now, it's only to be expected-- he's a former top-ten pick with two more years of professional experience. . . but i don't see a single thing that he does that marshall isn't capable of. . .

Originally Posted by SeeingRed

Thank you. They aren't saying that people think he's great and he's not, they are saying that he is really good, but people already think he's great and he's not living up to that hype just yet. Once he learns how to use his body better and quits dropping the damn ball, he'll be up there again. He needs to quit his shit too. I'm a big fan of class, and when I saw the highlight of him reaching in his pants to pull out that glove, I just wanted to scream. I'm glad Stokely and Scheffler were there to stop him. He'll grow up some day...

You can be a great WR and celebrate....TO and Chad Johnson do it all the time. So does Randy Moss. You're a fan of class, but Brandon Marshall ISN'T ROD SMITH. He's his own player, and he's young and brash, and loud mouthed and he can back it all up. That may not be the way you prefer it, but that's the way it is. Hope you get used to it. Marshall will be a Bronco for a long time coming.

oh no, this is terrible news!

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

And we're 5-4...thus the over-rated. I don't think its that hard to figure out why they are on that list. That is the national perception. Again, sorry it pisses you off so much...

Based on that logic then Kerry Collins is better than Jay Cutler... butt munch.

Originally Posted by MHCBill

Based on that logic then Kerry Collins is better than Jay Cutler... butt munch.

No...no he's not. Although, yes, he is leading 8-0 team, whereas Cutler is leading a 5-4 team.

I think you fail to understand what over-rated means as well. We are 5-4. Cutler is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. The record says he's overrated.

Again, this is NOT a question of who is better. This is an over-rated list. And both of our players, at this point in the season, are over-rated.

Of course, in order to see if this guy is dumb, we would have to ask him to rank the players over Cutler and Marshall.


Im sure hed look stupid.

Originally Posted by MissouriBronc

No...no he's not. Although, yes, he is leading 8-0 team, whereas Cutler is leading a 5-4 team.

I think you fail to understand what over-rated means as well. We are 5-4. Cutler is one of the best quarterbacks in the league. The record says he's overrated.

Again, this is NOT a question of who is better. This is an over-rated list. And both of our players, at this point in the season, are over-rated.

I want Trent Dilfer in...he has a ring, Willow.

Originally Posted by WARHORSE

Of course, in order to see if this guy is dumb, we would have to ask him to rank the players over Cutler and Marshall.


Im sure hed look stupid.

lol...a bunch of people on this web site do not understand the concept of over-rated...

Originally Posted by Bief Stue

I want Trent Dilfer in...he has a ring, Willow.

One more than Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler, eh?