Thread: Todd Haley thinks Josh McDaniels was cheating.

It smells like Bear in here.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

It smells like Bear in here.

Nah. I'm detecting more of a carney, maybe gay midget smell now.

Originally Posted by Lonestar

So once agian we bash Josh because he was hired to be the HC and was given a rookie co GMsand one of which seemed to be power-hungry.

If the rookie GMs were nit doing their jobs. I guess it would have been best for no one to do it.

Yes that makes sense.
The smart thing to do was hire a Qualified and experienced GM and then let him do the grunt work in hiring the rest of the staff. HC on down subject to Pat approval.

That plus the lack of depth and quality starters left behind put the team into a hole that would take years to climb out of.

Atleast Pat learned from that and brought in a "rookie" vp of football operations this time to over see the process.

Ahahahahahahahaha

I wonder why posts like this never get High Fives???

Ok, trying to decipher it, I get out of it:

First, Josh did no wrong and anyone criticising him is wrong. :brokenrecord:

Second, the problem was Xanders (formerly affectionately called Xman by Jr, until he became the scapegoat). Xanders, aka Xman, wasn't doing his job, so McDaniels had NO CHOICE but to go solo/rogue on the player/personnel stuff -- player trades, etc.

Third, Pat is ultimately to blame, because we all know McDaniels was nothing but perfect in his stint as Broncos HC, for hiring a rookie GM (aka Xman, previously spoken of in glowing terms by Jr, until Xanders made it clear that McDaniels cut him out of many/most player moves), and now is equally at fault for hiring Elway, a rookie VP of Football.

Simply amazing the lengths some will go to defend a failed head coach, simply because he replaced the hated mikey and therefore at all costs must be 'proven' to be better than mikey.

OMG, I think I'm going to puke.

Please excuse me for interrupting your regularly scheduled McDaniels bash circle-****. Please continue....

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

Please excuse me for interrupting your regularly scheduled McDaniels bash circle-****. Please continue....

Yeah, I gotta say the McDaniels-hate circle-jerk is probably a lot more bearable than the fan boy Tebow circle-jerk.

JMHO.

Originally Posted by Tned

I wonder why posts like this never get High Fives???

Ok, trying to decipher it, I get out of it:

First, Josh did no wrong and anyone criticising him is wrong. :brokenrecord:

Second, the problem was Xanders (formerly affectionately called Xman by Jr, until he became the scapegoat). Xanders, aka Xman, wasn't doing his job, so McDaniels had NO CHOICE but to go solo/rogue on the player/personnel stuff -- player trades, etc.

Third, Pat is ultimately to blame, because we all know McDaniels was nothing but perfect in his stint as Broncos HC, for hiring a rookie GM (aka Xman, previously spoken of in glowing terms by Jr, until Xanders made it clear that McDaniels cut him out of many/most player moves), and now is equally at fault for hiring Elway, a rookie VP of Football.

Simply amazing the lengths some will go to defend a failed head coach, simply because he replaced the hated mikey and therefore at all costs must be 'proven' to be better than mikey.

OMG, I think I'm going to puke.

You're forgetting that at one point Nolan apparently had the power to bring in Fields without clearing it through the HC and GM and McDaniels was stuck with him.

Originally Posted by MOtorboat

Yeah, I gotta say the McDaniels-hate circle-jerk is probably a lot more bearable than the fan boy Tebow circle-jerk.

JMHO.

It's usually a lot more entertaining.

Originally Posted by spikerman

You're forgetting that at one point Nolan apparently had the power to bring in Fields without clearing it through the HC and GM and McDaniels was stuck with him.

It gets old to hear ad nauseum that Nolan acted unilaterally but he didn't with intent of screwing Joshy over.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

Please excuse me for interrupting your regularly scheduled McDaniels bash circle-****. Please continue....

Not to be confused with a BTB "slam anyone with an opinion contrary to my own" circle-****...

Originally Posted by Tned

Not to be confused with a BTB "slam anyone with an opinion contrary to my own" circle-****...

Who have I slammed in this thread?

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

Who have I slammed in this thread?

Everyone who criticized McDaniels, with your circle **** crack. Maybe you should focus less on lashing out at people with opinions different than your own, and just post your opinion in threads.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

You don't start a season 6-0 by having no idea how to coach. Come on now. Yeah we were awful after that, but you have to have at least SOME idea what you're doing when the team you coach starts 6-0.

You should also look no further than how much Kyle Orton overpreformed to get a sense of his coaching abilities.

Maybe if we went 0-16 you'd have a point that he was completely incompetent as a coach but that wasn't the case.

Good post. See that a few folks do not allow emotions to get in the way of logic.

Unfortunately for us Broncos fans, there were still 10 games remaining after that 6-0 start. Once the rest of the league figured out that as long as they defended the bubble screen, Denver didn't have anything else to try.

Originally Posted by BaileyTheBest

Please excuse me for interrupting your regularly scheduled McDaniels bash circle-****. Please continue....

Well I see you have pissed off just about everyone also.

To quote a famous guy
Just ignore" them for they no not what they do"

I'd high five you but I'm mobile. So instead

Originally Posted by spikerman

Unfortunately for us Broncos fans, there were still 10 games remaining after that 6-0 start. Once the rest of the league figured out that as long as they defended the bubble screen Denver didn't have anything else to try.

About the same time Nolan stopped coaching also.

Mistakes were made by everyone in dove valley they did all emanate our of Joshs office.

Perhaps thinking that a very recently failed and then fired ex head coach was not the right guy to hire as his ego was Still to big. Forgot that as a coordinator you take directions from the HC.

To bad he failed he could have been helpful.