Thread: Town Hall Proposal: Implementation of an infraction points (IP) system

I like the ideas here, and think a 30 day trial starting now with appeals to Tned is a great way to start.

Originally Posted by NightTrainLayne

I've been for an IP (infraction point) system any time that it's been mentioned, and I like the examples of points and time-frames that Tned has laid out. This would in essence give a three-strikes and your out type of philosophy for major issues, but minor ones would be more-or-less a slap on the wrist. . .only adding on to major issues if there are any.

I would add just one other idea from my experience at the Freak. You should add an additional infraction (I'm not sure what level, but probably along the lines of 5 points) for starting a thread, or questioning publicly any infraction's handed out. Nothing causes more problems imo than a bunch of threads running around criticizing the mods actions.

That's not to say you can't question an infraction in private through pm's with the mods and/or Tned. There's just no need for the public airing of dirty laundry.

Well said and i agree.

I'll buy into this. Seems like there are probably only a few people this would actually affect anyway. I think if some of the tenured and regular members start getting into trouble for petty stuff, then I might have a problem with it, but I'm confident the mods here know most people well enough to know when an infraction was intentional or not.

Originally Posted by Thnikkaman

I could agree with that, however, I don't think the appeals should go just to Tned. There should be a pm address that gets to all the mods. Thus freeing Tned from being the only person having do deal with the appeals.

Well, that would happen pretty much anyway. If Tned gets an appeal he would then automatically address and update us about it. But good point never the less.

With whatever system is decided upon, we all need to keep in mind that the mods can not/do not see every violation. Therefore, if a member gets a violation for a particular reason, and another poster does the same thing, and does not receive a violation, it does not mean that the mods are biased. We need everyone's help. If you see something - report it.

I say do it if you need to. I won't be getting any IP's because I don't break the rules so I won't be worrying about it.

People need to know there are consequences for their actions.

I think it's a great idea TNed. It will add more transparency to the system, and will allow the individual users another concrete way to see how close they are to losing certain privileges.

More so than a mod saying "knock it off" they can see the knock it off message and the 15 points they just amassed.

I think you are creating too much work for yourselves. Instead of creating all these checklists and point systems, just go with your gut and fire at will. Let the whiners whine in silence. Would you guys stop bending over backwards just to dot every I and cross every T in the fairness department?

Originally Posted by atwater27

I think you are creating too much work for yourselves. Instead of creating all these checklists and point systems, just go with your gut and fire at will. Let the whiners whine in silence. Would you guys stop bending over backwards just to dot every I and cross every T in the fairness department?

OMG! I'm agreeing with you again (for the 1st time).

Originally Posted by Traveler

OMG! I'm agreeing with you again (for the 1st time).

I did the same thing. Crazy day!!!

More important, it is similar to what works VERY well on thousands of other message boards. It is a built in and commonly used feature on vBulletin boards.

.

Meaning there is a built-in filter that tracks infractions so mods don't have to?

If that's the case, it does eliminate the bias and subjectivity of the mods.

I'd have no problem it this was implemented.

An infraction is an infraction. Evenly applied and fair to all.

We all have enough rules at school, work and I guess some of us at home. Isn't the internet supposed to be somewhat of an escape from the rat race and constant ridgid schedules, guidelines and codes of conduct? Christ, we make any more rule implementations here, will we have to go to an orientation seminar to post?

Im scared we are getting to nit picky... I dont see a problem. So I dont see a solution.

Originally Posted by claymore

Im scared we are getting to nit picky... I dont see a problem. So I dont see a solution.

You mean............TOO nit picky?

Originally Posted by claymore

Im scared we are getting to nit picky... I dont see a problem. So I dont see a solution.

And have you opted back in to P&R yet Clay, or is there still too much foolishness, insults, and generally crappy behaviour there? That's kind of the point.

As to Atwater27's contention, I would argue that the worst effect of the Internet is that it has serously eroded people's good manners and consideration. People post stuff regularly they would never say to a friend or aquaintance. Its a pretty clear sense I've gotten that the majority of the membership here does not want this to be a free fire zone. With all due respect to the fine people at the Mane extremely lax moderation is why I don't post there at all. Its just not fun for many people. Some folks enjoy that atmosphere, and thats fine, but the idea here is not to simply become a copy of another board with different background colors. What we are trying to hammer out is a set of rules most of us can live with, and where the people whose views are not best represented by whatever comes out of this can at least say that they had a shot at expressing their POV.